Posted on 09/09/2012 7:01:52 AM PDT by scottjewell
[A scholar of Divinity reminds Jamestown, NY readers that our laws stem from Judeo-Christian law and morality] A recent letter claiming same-sex marriage is "a right" and "laws cannot be passed according to the Bible, it's unconstitutional," reveals fundamental ignorance of American law and history.
Sodomy itself was illegal almost everywhere until recent decades, so previous generations of Americans, lawmakers, and judges saw no constitutional problem. Our laws were actually based on Judeo-Christian law and morality, and the likeness of Moses the great lawgiver still appears on the Supreme Court building.
The Declaration of Independence emphasizes that our rights come from the Creator, not man or government. Washington stated "it is impossible to rightly govern without God and the Bible." Franklin called on the Constitutional Convention to pray for God's help.
Each state had a state-recognized church in those days; the First Amendment simply guarantees freedom of religion and restricts the Federal Government from establishing a national church. Read our Founders' writings, learn our history! The First Amendment is being severely twisted by modern liberals.
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They live a hurting, deviant, and perverted lifestyle and need help. Calling homosexuality anything else is like calling cancer healthy and good. Only a sick society and/or world "calls evil good and good evil."
Amen.
Seems to me the whole gay-rights theory depends on there being a “gay gene”. Meaning, that the people who have this gene can’t help themselves and therefore need “protection of their rights”. Since we’ve been unable to isolate this gay gene it kind of makes the whole gay rights thing a sham, since it reduces homosexuality to a preference and not hard wired. Why should we as a society overturn thousands of years of marriage law to please a particular preference?
In a society where butt < expletive deleted > is celebrated, then what is unacceptable?
Yes, that’s the crux: In order to qualify as a special class of persons in need of special rights and protections, the “born that way” argument had to be created. And the APA had to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostician’s Manual of psychological disorders. The entire LGBT civil rights and equality movement stands or falls with the “born that way” premise.
Whatever rights these queers think are coming to them, have no founding in The U.S. Constitution.
As a group, they serve no function to society. within their own, they cannot propogate, except by either surrogate or unnatural means, which is outside normal society’s realm. If they do not, they neither add nor subtract from society’s population. It has been shown that there is a propensity for a major death-dealing illness to be spread among themselves, and to those outside their group, should someone get too close in relations. They yell and scream for acceptance, but spew intolerance at the next sentence. They demand legal rights, for which there was no legal basis, until President Clinton, signed the Federal Discrimination Hiring law.
They deserve no more legal consideration than any other American, and that includes those who hyphenate their background. They already have all the rights necessary.
‘Marriage’ is not a ‘right’, but is a ‘rite of passage’ within society. It is the announcement of the next generation, the announcement of the joining of the partners’ backgrounds, and at one time, the announcement of legal political ties between countries.
The queers cannot brook that historical fact, nor can they crash that ‘glass wall’, because they produce neither a generation, a joining of partners’ backgrounds via childbirth, nor can they declare any political ties, because they are so few a minority.
Liberals base their rights on victim hood. Once they can portray themselves as victims, they feel justified to claims new rights.
Pretty soon the “Get the Government out of Marriage” bunch will join this thread, seeking to re-define marriage in that way, while claiming they’re not (and claiming they’re not carrying water for the pro-gay marriage crowd).
“‘Marriage’ is not a ‘right’, but is a ‘rite of passage’ within society. It is the announcement of the next generation, the announcement of the joining of the partners’ backgrounds, and at one time, the announcement of legal political ties between countries.”
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Beautifully and succinctly stated. Bravo.
I refuse to let homos, fags or sodomites misuse the word, gay.
Yes - that whole “government has no role in marriage” argument has never worked with me. It does have a valid role, having interest in children and the social order - as does the church. Church and state work well together within the marriage institution. And these heights, this blend of state and church, are precisely what the gays aspire to. Get the government out of marriage and most people wouldn’t marry, gays included. We look for state and divine authority and approval when we marry - I know I did.
Gays are just like Obama. ...well, yeah, exactly like him, but that isn’t exactly what I mean. Gays are a group, not individuals. They don’t come to us as a man or a woman of self worth, but as a movement, a group bowel movement of sorts, dumped on the rest of society. That’s what I mean about Obama. Say anything against him, and the racist chants begin, because he isn’t an individual. He doesn’t come to us as a man, but as part of an aggrieved group, dumping on the rest of us. That’s why homosexuals love him. That, and the other reason. That’s a big reason why reasonable people are repulsed by them, among other things.
Well stated, thanks.
It’s upsetting that they are now hitting this site and others, trying to use our less-intrusive government arguments against us, to overturn the society of the country that we love. But they are smart people, and know how to get leverage where it’s available (so to speak).
Well if the government wants to say that MY marriage is somehow the same as two sodomites playing house, then you’re bloody well right I want the government out of marriage! Mine!
“Well if the government wants to say that MY marriage is somehow the same as two sodomites playing house, then you’re bloody well right I want the government out of marriage! Mine!”
Yep, that’s their end-game. To eliminate marriage as the basis of our society. You must not let them get there.
Yes, the infuriating and deeply disturbing part is that they are turning that sword of righteousness (the call for less invasive powers of gov’t) against us. In the end, may it enter into their own hearts.
Very, very perceptive - highly astute observation. The “identity politics” ideology (seen in both the gay rights and Obama movements) obscures the individual, the warm and robust reality, with the group and its overarching idealism. The static (as in stasis) model replaces the vital and dynamic model. Excellent point, pallis.
Yes, true words.
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