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Conservative “expert” purists have to recognize people are voting AGAINST Obama not FOR Romney
coachisright.com ^ | Juky 5, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 07/05/2012 10:40:20 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

The Drudge Report carries a picture of Mitt Romney jet skiing with his wife – “Oh no that’s it Barack Obama will cruise to reelection because all is lost!”

A few people, who we’ve heard of, have declared Romney’s campaign virtually dead because THEY don’t like his response to the two worst decisions from the Supreme Court.

These comments are, of course well meaning, but they remind us of the wide gap between grass roots activist TEA party conservative voters and conservative “leaders” who now want to run in front of the parade to appear to be relevant.

There is a huge surge of enthusiasm to get rid of Barack Obama that is happening in the streets and on conservative internet “meeting places” that will flush Barack Obama away in November. How can these “experts” not know this?

In my small but reliable poll 66% my overwhelmingly conservative readers said they were voting AGAINST Barack Obama and just 24% said they were voting FOR Mitt Romney! The large national polls won’t ask this question but that doesn’t alter the truth.

Our “expert” conservative leaders don’t yet understand that not only will conservative voters crawl through broken glass to vote against Obama, BUT more to the point, legions of Americans, especially White voters, who just desperately want Obama gone will see “ROMNEY” as the name on the toilet bowl handle that must be pulled down to flush away Barack Obama – America’s foulest mistake.

Over the past two years Obama’s nationally televised speeches have drawn fewer and fewer listeners. This is because Americans don’t care what he has to say, they want him gone.

Regardless of what he has done, Obama has not gotten ANY lasting “poll bounce” because Americans don’t care what he does, they want…..

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To: so_real

If R’s win in a landslide, you don’t think that somebody would be able to convince Romney that he needs to choose “original intent” justices?

Virgil Goode will only appoint justices if he gets elected.


121 posted on 07/05/2012 2:14:03 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Your post reminds me of something I wrote last year in a slightly different context, but which overall applies to your post:

"In the recent debate over increasing the debt ceiling, the Democrats offered a plan to have a hungry eight hundred pound grizzly bear with fleas live in your house. The Republicans offered the bear, minus a few of the fleas. Now they want you to vote for them again because of their wonderful anti-flea credentials. But if you ask them about the bear in the living room, they call you a purist and an extremist."

Sept. 5, 2011


122 posted on 07/05/2012 2:15:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: butterdezillion

Which would you prefer: living under the cancer of Romney for 8 years, or being decapitated by Obama within one year?


I’m trying to find a Christian way of saying this, but. Butterdezillion, you are such a drama queen. Your scaring people into voting for Romney, but not scare of God???


123 posted on 07/05/2012 2:17:51 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: butterdezillion

If R’s win in a landslide, you don’t think that somebody would be able to convince Romney that he needs to choose “original intent” justices?

I'm sure he'll appoint "original intent" justices ... just like Bush did. Do you see where that went? At least voting for Goode is not voting for evil.


124 posted on 07/05/2012 2:20:49 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: butterdezillion

Being unprincipled is always being short-sighted, no matter now “wise” it may appear to some.

Being principled is always the practical thing to do over the long haul, because the natural law is that you reap what you sow. Some crops take longer to mature than others, but this has always been true, and it will remain true as long as this creation lasts.


125 posted on 07/05/2012 2:24:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: Linda Frances

Linda, Obama has done all the same things you criticize Romney for, but also done much, much worse.

Suppose that the person running neck-and-neck against Adolf Hitler believed in abortion for rape victims but was opposed to the Holocaust. Would you vote for Corrie Ten Boom and allow Adolf Hitler to win the election? Why?

If you did vote for Corrie Ten Boom and Hitler won the election and buried millions of people dead and alive after starving and torturing them, just as everybody knew he would do if he was re-elected.... how would you convince yourself that their blood was not on your hands? How would you convince yourself that it was the God who you trusted who actually failed to protect those innocents, and not yourself?


126 posted on 07/05/2012 2:25:17 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: EternalVigilance

Lock and load.

That could be the result if Romney wins. It will be the result if Obama does.

Not that we don’t need a thorough house (and senate and WH) cleaning, but I’d like one more opportunity at the ballot box before we open the cartridge box.

We can stand on your hill and repeat your statement all day long but that doesn’t negate the fact that Obama must be removed and Romney has the best chance to do it.


127 posted on 07/05/2012 2:30:30 PM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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To: Linda Frances

God is the only One who can save this country. Almost every day my husband and I remind each other that it is up to God whether He gives us another day, and another day of freedom. Because God is the Lord of life.

But that doesn’t mean that if I get mangled in a lawn mower I’m going to stay home and trust that God will make everything better. God gave me a brain and He gave me doctors. Who am I to tell Him that He has to heal me through a miracle instead of healing me through a doctor?

Reminds me of the illustration about a guy whose house was flooded. He climbed on the roof and prayed that God would save him. Soon a helicopter came along and put down a rope for him to grab so he could be brought into the helicopter and rescued. The man said, “No thanks. God is going to save me.” The man eventually drowned and when he got to Heaven he asked God why He didn’t save him. God said, “Well, I sent you a helicopter, and you wouldn’t come.”

You could adapt that story and say that the pilot of the helicopter was pro-gay, so the man on the roof refused the help because he was too holy to believe that God would use a flawed pilot to rescue him...


128 posted on 07/05/2012 2:32:50 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: so_real

I believe Roberts was threatened, just like a whole host of others. That’s what we’ll have forever, unless we find a way to disarm Soros’ threat of another run on the bank to collapse the US economy and capitalism. Having either Obama or Biden as his puppet is NOT going to disarm Soros.


129 posted on 07/05/2012 2:35:06 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: PoliticalArsonist

There’s no need to lock and load. All that is required to put the republic back on course is for conservatives to stop sacrificing what they say they believe on the altar of perceived political expediency.


130 posted on 07/05/2012 2:35:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

Agreed. But what does “unprincipled” mean?

The Lord said we are to be as innocent as doves and as wise as serpents. What does that mean?


131 posted on 07/05/2012 2:36:12 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: so_real

You mean the Virgil Goode who was a democrat turned republican turned 3rd party? That Virgil Goode?

Sincere conversion or conversion of convenience as the tide of conservatism is rising again?

To me, removing Obama is the right thing. I will fight the battle to remove Romney if we cannot hold him accountable.

I will no denigrate you for acting on principle as many do here. I agree with your motivations and have made the same arguments ad infinitum. From reading your few posts here, I’d say that we agree more than 95% of the issues and the correct actions to get us on the right path. I thank you for your efforts and your civility. Heaven help us all.


132 posted on 07/05/2012 2:37:32 PM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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To: PoliticalArsonist
"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

-- Winston Churchill


133 posted on 07/05/2012 2:39:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

And what happens in April of 2013 (for instance) when Soros makes a run on the bank, Obama declares martial law, and all the Hezbollah operatives poison every state with the bubonic plague so the Islamists can take over the state capitals and Washington DC?

Just as a possible scenario. The fact of the matter is that this could just as easily happen in October of 2012, so it might already be too late. But I’m wondering how conservative non-pandering would solve that problem to save this country at this point.


134 posted on 07/05/2012 2:42:15 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; Linda Frances

Poor comparison, butterdezillion. In your scenario, you are looking for purity and the abortion issue is the single issue keeping one candidate from reaching perfection. In the real world, neither Obama or Romney are pure, or close to pure, and in fact they share the same impurities : bailouts, gun grabbing, abortion, amnesty, healthcare rationing, homosexualization, and big government. Instead of comparing Adolf Hitler and Corrie Ten Boom, try comparing Adolf Hitler and Chiang Kai-shek. It's a closer analogy. Why would you waste a vote on either? How do you justify your choice?


135 posted on 07/05/2012 2:42:34 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: butterdezillion
Agreed. But what does “unprincipled” mean?

Look closely at Romney's entire political career. It matches the definition perfectly.

The Lord said we are to be as innocent as doves and as wise as serpents. What does that mean?

Well, it certainly isn't a sanction on supporting evil.

136 posted on 07/05/2012 2:42:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: butterdezillion

You can’t scare me into supporting a pro-choice democrat socialist, just to stop a pro-choice democrat socialist. Sorry.


137 posted on 07/05/2012 2:45:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A Choice, not an Etch-A-Sketch. TomHoefling.com)
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To: jmaroneps37

In 1980 I voted FOR Reagan first and AGAINST Carter second.

In 1992 I held my nose and voted again for Bush because I grew up in Arkansas and hated Clinton (although by the time he became governor I was in college and he lost in 1980 and by 1982 I was living in TX).

I was livid when Dole got the nomination in 1996 and knew he’d lose.

I was very skeptical of GW in 2000 but HATED Gore (moved to TN in 1990 and he’s an idiot) and knew I had to vote for him in 2004 because Kerry was a doofus. But I didn’t trust him except on the military. I was correct in that his second term was dismal on all fronts.

I frankly don’t remember who I supported in the primary in 2008 but it wasn’t McCain.

And now I have this awful Romney to have to put on a hazmat suit to vote for. I truly fear he’ll be GW’s third and worse term.

I also don’t trust the GOP-e that SCREWED us in 2005 and 2006. Boehner and McConnell are not the leaders we need to STOP this liberal socialism dead.


138 posted on 07/05/2012 2:45:43 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: PoliticalArsonist

You mean the Virgil Goode who was a democrat turned republican turned 3rd party? That Virgil Goode?

Yes! That's the one.

Sincere conversion or conversion of convenience as the tide of conservatism is rising again?

I sent you links to his positions on the issue and his voting history; you'll have to discern the degree of his "conversion" for yourself as I did, with research.

To me, removing Obama is the right thing. I will fight the battle to remove Romney if we cannot hold him accountable.

As will I. I just know removing Obama is higher probability than removing Romney -- so if we are going to force the issue of returning to conservatism now is the time to do it.

I will no denigrate you for acting on principle as many do here. I agree with your motivations and have made the same arguments ad infinitum. From reading your few posts here, I’d say that we agree more than 95% of the issues and the correct actions to get us on the right path. I thank you for your efforts and your civility. Heaven help us all.

Thank you. I feel the same.


139 posted on 07/05/2012 2:51:56 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: altura
Hard to be "for" Romney with a campaign like this!


140 posted on 07/05/2012 2:52:42 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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