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Complete Disaster Non-Preparedness: DC Grocery Stores Out , Gas Unavailable, Grid-Down Heat Rages
SHTF Plan ^ | 7/2/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 07/02/2012 4:43:44 PM PDT by Kartographer

We’ve seen it time and again over the last decade. An emergency strikes and panic grips the city or region for days or weeks on end.

We saw a complete breakdown of emergency response and law & order during Hurricane Katrina. The 2011 Snowpocalypse on the east coast led to runs on grocery stores and empty shelves within a matter of hours. Widespread blackouts during Hurricane Ike left large sections of the Houston power grid down for up to four weeks. In all these cases gas was almost impossible to find, what was in your pantry was what you had until food distribution resumed, local water was not safe for consumption, and government response was limited to reinstating essential services first and foremost.

The bottom line, as Jesselyn Radack of the Government Accountability Project notes, is that after billions have been spent by Department of Homeland Security, FEMA and local law enforcement, we are no more prepared today than we were the day before September 11, 2011.

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To: cpa4you

Please pardon my rudeness - I did not mean to make light of your disability.


101 posted on 07/03/2012 4:18:41 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Kartographer

Implicit in your post is the assumption that a disaster can or should have been instantly healed. That is always the case and mindset of those experiencing a disaster. It never has and never will be the case that victims will be made whole.

The truth, the simple fact of life, is that there is no way to reverse the damage. It must be overcome by a process that varies with the disaster and the severity. Having visited several such minidisasters as a damage assessor, I can say with a fair degree of certainty that the recovery of the electrical grid will be accomplished by teams of electric company guys from as far away as necessary to provide the necessary men and equipment. It takes time to asses the degree of damage and make the calls to other electric companies to order the teams to hit the road. They are there, believe me. They know hat to do and what to bring. If required, in groups of 8 to 10 trucks they will come. They do it for a living. Some hours are required for them to get it all together, kiss the wife and kids and then hit the road.

But the primary reality, the most important concept, is, disasters happen, there is damage, recovery is costly to the individual and the loss will not be covered completely by outside agencies.

The whining is typical of those everywhere who want it to be over now....... it is the lazy no goods who can’t or won’t make me whole instantly who are at fault and I hate their lazy no count response to cure my bad feeling and misery. I was sitting here being a good guy and then this. I live in DC for God’s sake....we are immune to such hardship.!!

The hardship is minor, trivial. Some inconvenience, come discomfort, some spoiled food was likely experienced but the dwelling is likely intact with no mud on the floor or walls and roofs gone or auto with mud on the engine and dripping from the radio.


102 posted on 07/03/2012 4:46:01 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Kartographer

Some idiot on a prepper thread last week declared “I’ll just take what I need from my neighbors. I told him theft wasn’t a conservative principle, asked if he was too f’n lazy to prepare for himself. In the end I suggested he was on the wrong blog.


103 posted on 07/03/2012 5:03:05 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: Mich Patriot

Where I live most people have immediate access to a backhoe.

And it won’t be for agricultural purposes.

The strong will always prey upon the weak, makes no difference in what reality people live in, the real aches and pain world of the surreal internet forums hives.

Yes I have some bitterness against forums lately, because they are heavily infested with rodents, lice and vermin.


104 posted on 07/03/2012 5:13:44 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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To: Bratch

No flood insurance pays good /s

105 posted on 07/03/2012 5:50:35 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Kartographer

Well I’LL promise you a cup of coffee (with a little somethin-somethin in it to keep ya warm), good conversation, and something yummy from my “Apocalypse Chow” cookbook! ;-)


106 posted on 07/03/2012 5:54:33 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: Kartographer
Is this the work of a terrible terrorist attack? No, it is the complete disaster non-preparedness a decade after 9/11.

Anyone who thinks terrorists are not taking note of the chaos on the east coast from this one storm is crazy. All they have to do is take out a few electrical substations in major cities and all he!! will follow in a few days.

107 posted on 07/03/2012 6:10:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: Terry Mross
It doesn't get much smaller than ours. They had a natural gas generator. A tree uprooted and brought the gas line up with it and they had to go to gasoline. LOL!

Yes, things are a lot different today.

108 posted on 07/03/2012 6:34:36 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: bgill

When I go out I use a wheelchair to get aroud. It is a struggle but doable. I have been marveling at the silly things done to accomodate federal laws rather than the handicapped ... like a ramp cut into a curb which leads to not a sidewalk but a wall or a grassy lot/field, or the placement of a ramp and two handicapped parking places, on a steep slope away from the curb being accessed. I won’t use one like that, too dangerous getting in and out and up the slope or back down the slope, so I’ve learned to mount the curb at a level spot by backing up and over the curb. I don’t blame the businesses, I blame the over enfrocement of regulations and laws. At home I use my canes, but I built my ramps to allow convenient use, to suit myself not the government.


109 posted on 07/03/2012 6:45:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: patton

My family and I were just in the process of moving out of the DC area when this struck. We were living in Alexandria (near Ft. Belvoir) and the movers had been packing our belongings for two days. We pulled out going south at about 1900.

We had to pick up our son at a Boy Scout camp near Surry, VA on Saturday morning, so we drove as far as Ashland and decided to get a room for the night. When I walked in to the office of the hotel to register, there was a bit of lightening on the horizon and the air was muggy and still. By the time I walked out, the wind was picking up trash cans and throwing them high in the air.

Before we could get to our room, the torrential rains started and we got soaked running from the car to the door. I started texting and calling the adult leaders at the camp to let them know what was coming their way.

To make a long(er) story short, all the boys were evacuated to the dining hall at the camp and rode out the storm quite well. We picked our son up the next morning and headed over to I-81 to travel south to Mississippi where we are visiting relatives.

All the way down 81, the power was out and the hotels were full of people who had evacuated their homes. My wife and son were exhausted from the rough night; so, when we were finally able to find a hotel in Wytheville, we pulled in for the rest of the day to rest.

The remainder of our trip down has been uneventful by comparison and we are now with family until we fly out of the US after the 4th. All I can say is that I am glad we are not still in the DC area.

Take care and keep safe.


110 posted on 07/03/2012 8:01:07 AM PDT by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: Have Ruck - Will Travel

Funny you mention Wytheville - lots of family buried down there, but the tombstones are gone - Union army burned ‘em for firewood. (CSA had to use wood markers during the disturbance).

Everything is OK up here. Hope your houshold goods catch up with you.


111 posted on 07/03/2012 8:14:23 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy; Mich Patriot; Old Sarge; Marcella; metmom; ChocChipCookie
Just comb through the preppers threads you will find them there, the what I call the 'anti-preppers'. Some are just flippant nuts who say things like "Well just use your Y2K supplies." as a jab, not caring or realizing that Y2K was a legitimate problem that governments and companies spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours to fix. It wasn't a disaster, because people took the problem seriously and addressed it and thereby eliminated the problem before it could cause chaos.

You will also find the “Sky is falling” jerks who’s only response or input to any preparedness concern or situation. For them I came up with this graphic:

Guess what sometimes the sky does fall.

Sometimes it falls just a little.

Sometimes the whole damn thing comes down on you.

I've seen it so much that I wrote this rant that covers most of the others that pop-up on here:

If you look through most any of the Preparedness threads here on FR you will find examples of the three types of people I call the anti-preppers. The first is the “I’ve got lots of guns and plenty of ammo and I’ll just take what I need.” and the seconded is “I don’t prep because I don’t believe anything is going to happen, but if it does preppers should share with me.”

Anyone reading these peoples post can easily pick-up the anger in many of them and you will soon see that it’s not just the Libs that are shocked and infuriated by preppers.

The first group the “I’ll take what I want crowd” when confronted will often back off saying things like “I was just joking”, but I don’t believe it. When I read their post I can’t help but think of this quote from one of my favorite westerns ’Open Range’: “Most times a man will tell you his bad intentions if you listen, let yourself hear.” I ‘hear’ their intentions and they aren’t good.

The third type that I would like to warn about are those who wish to bring God’s Armageddon into the discussion as if they know that it will be God’s will should some catastrophe befall us. They claim this despite the fact that the history of man is full of direr times which were caused by nature or man himself.

History has shown us all too well that men do not need God’s help to muck things up to a point were their fellows cry out for God to end it all and relieve them of their misery.

There will be many in this ‘its God’s will’ crowd who will want to see you punished as they will see your prepping as you trying to dodging God’s punishment. This group along with the “I don’t prep, but you should share” group will be among the first to report you and your ‘hoarding’ to the powers that be in their efforts to make sure you too suffer just as they do. The ‘its God’s will’ will do it because they will see you as trying to escape the rightful wrath of God (as if they know the Lord’s mind) and the second because you proved them wrong.

You can be fairly certain that all three groups will hate you as they will be quick to blame you for the ‘troubles’ because in their twisted way of thinking your prepping brought the ‘troubles’ and therefore you need to be punished for your transgression.

Always keep these three groups in mind when it comes to OPSEC. Operational Security is not just for your Lib neighbors many people that you may think of as being conservative thinkers will be just as dangerous.

I myself have gotten an e-mail from a fellow FReeper telling my that my advise on prepping is going to kill anyone that listen to it and should SHTF and we meet he promises me a bullet. There are others on here that were not so direct, but I expect the same from them.

Beware these people listen to their words carefully and “Listen, let yourself hear.” what they are saying I know I do.


112 posted on 07/03/2012 8:39:12 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: editor-surveyor

1/4 rations


113 posted on 07/03/2012 8:49:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: MHGinTN
It'd be one thing if they put this light with all it's ramps, walk buttons and such in town by the grocery store but not out at the city limit sign where there's no place to go on foot, much less a wheelchair, is just ridiculous. They also just finished digging out the bar ditches so that's another reason it's idiotic. Seriously, pastures, bar ditches and a bridge?!? Yes, it's probably because of some law that they have to do all this but there's no way around it being a crazy waste of tax dollars. I'm sure it'll be kept mown (more $$$) for all the various inspections and then it'll revert back to nature until a week before the next inspection.

And don't get me started on backing up the turn lane where it could interfere with the bridge traffic so if someone wasn't paying attention where are they going to end up? But no one asked me...

114 posted on 07/03/2012 8:55:07 AM PDT by bgill
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To: editor-surveyor

When Bush the Elder showed his Big Government stripes by failing to correct ponytail guy I knew America was in deep trouble.

How different things could have been if he had set that guy straight then and there. Talk about a “teachable moment!”


115 posted on 07/03/2012 9:00:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Kartographer

Please add me to your Preppers Ping list. Thanks.


116 posted on 07/03/2012 9:04:08 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: cpa4you; Marcella

LOLOL - FNC was just filming the removal of that big tree down the street. Across Great Falls Street.

“Hey, look, babe, our street is on TV!”

“Where the heck do you think you are going?!!”

“Ummm, outside.”

“In those raggedy-@ss shorts, and ripped up tee-shirt? Are you NUTS? Do you even know where your shoes are?”

“Yeah, but, babe ... I could be on TV...”

“And in jail, too, you jackwad.”

LOL. I love my life - and my wife. Heheheheh.


117 posted on 07/03/2012 9:50:47 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton

I agree with your wife - find your shoes and lose those clothes for your TV appearance!


118 posted on 07/03/2012 10:43:34 AM PDT by Marcella (God wouldn't vote for Romney so I won't, either.)
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To: Kartographer
I myself have gotten an e-mail from a fellow FReeper telling my that my advise on prepping is going to kill anyone that listen to it and should SHTF and we meet he promises me a bullet. There are others on here that were not so direct, but I expect the same from them.

Charming.

Beware these people listen to their words carefully and “Listen, let yourself hear.” what they are saying I know I do.

...practically Scriptural in tone...excellent advice.

119 posted on 07/03/2012 10:50:34 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: formosa
Quite frankly I’m pleasantly surprised that there are not more stories of looting and violence in DC following this storm. ...

Bet the stories are there, the reporting agencies are simply not reporting.

120 posted on 07/03/2012 10:54:22 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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