Posted on 05/31/2012 11:40:44 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell
Just wondering ...
Do you plan to support Mitt Romney, hold out for a Ron Paul candidacy, or is there a third alternative that attracts you?
I am not an American resident or voter, but I share your concerns about Obama's potential for enhanced trouble-making in a second term. Romney has obvious "RINO" or "CINO" flaws, but could be as much as a considerable improvement on Obama, at least almost guaranteed to be a less dangerous president. Or is it worse to have a so-called conservative running a globalist administration?
Now with Ron Paul, I feel you could expect better economic management than either of the above, but many have questions about the realism or even the safety of Ron Paul's foreign policy and attitudes towards global security issues. Personally, I think he might do okay since his first term for sure would be overwhelmed by economic issues.
I don't think there is any other realistic alternative but maybe people have some ideas about that.
Well, basically just wondering how people are viewing this as we move inexorably closer to the moments of decision.
Hope and pray that it works out as this world would be a much worse place with a weakened or damaged America (as is already evident). Romney at least talks a good game on the subject of restoring American greatness, but I think that is a task that will take a lot more than cheerleading from a president at this point. Not to say that the U.S.A. appears fatally weakened but there are some disturbing trends.
Keep the faith ...
I'm not in a swing state but amen to all you say...and I've lived through Roosevelt, Truman. voted for Eisenhower 2nd term..(my first vote).
If forced to choose between 4 years of socialism (romney) or 4 years of isolationism (paul) I can deal with the isolationism, but never the socialism.
I will NEVER vote for that bastard and I said it in 2008 and almost daily gave that statement here on FR... right up until today. Many warned the gop/e. They are NOT our friends nor are they a Conservative party. Many leaders of the gop and many elected officials are already saying that mitt's "no new taxes and cutting spending" pledge is just a negotiating tactic. They are already working with rats behind the scenes to RAISE TAXES and crush CAPITALISM. Remember the secret deal that killed Cut, Cap and Balance? Don't doubt me... Rush and Levin have played the audio of many gop movers and shakers saying just that... issakson, cantor, cornyn... the hatch challenger, lindsey graham etc etc etc. To believe that mitt will do the right thing is to believe in a fairy tail. LISTEN TO THE PARTY LEADERS... LISTEN TO WHAT THY ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO! The truth is... it is almost too late to do anything about it. At least I can stand tall and state that I never had anything to do with electing the second worse president this Republic will have endured. Carter may slip to number three if mitt wins. I am not here to be part of a republican team... I am not here to promote the party line... I am here to promote and discuss and implement CONSERVATIVE IDEOLOGY. I will continue to do so until I am banned for doing it.
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Right on.
You spelled “hundreds” wrong.
I plan on voting for the candidate with the highest odds of unseating obama. Currently, that appears to be the GOP candidate (Romney, barring a miracle at the convention).
But, like I said: I'll vote for the candidate with the highest odds of unseating obama. Give me an alternative with higher odds than Romney and I'll vote for that alternative.
"Lead", "follow" or "get out of the way". Pick one.
Perhaps, but I haven't noticed it. What I *have* noticed is a crap-ton of folks who like Paul out of hopes for legal weed.
I would support him for Sec-Treasury though.
The answer depends on whether you just want to make a statement or you want to defeat Obama. To me, the time for statement making is during the primaries.
I refuse to cast my vote, my only vote, for an unacceptable candidate. I recognize that some folks are so paralyzed by fear that they can be herded into the Romney corral constructed by Karl Rove. I want no part of Romney or all that he represents.
Reject Obama. Reject Romney. Reject evil.
Fear not. Trust God.
Hey, this is America and you can vote for your dog if you like! At least you'll be able to feel good about *yourself* and that is what's most important, right?
Won’t be voting for that lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal Mitt Romney under any set of circumstances.
I’ll either write in Sarah Palin or vote for an actual conservative that is running like Virgil Goode.
Ron Paul is not going to run, that’s 100%. The reason, his son is a Republican Senator who he wants to have a future. In fact the hope of the Paul movement is being put into Rand Paul. He showed the ability to get regular conservative votes in his 2010 Senate primary. He’s a longshot VP for Romney and a possible 2016 (his Senate seat is up that year) candidate if Romney loses or 2020 candidate if he wins.
Your post seems to suggest you believe Paul could win a three-way race which is impossible, he couldn’t win a 2 way race. If he were the GOP nominee Obama would hand him his a$$ over the racist stuff from the Paul newsletters in the early 90’s (he didn’t write them but it doesn’t matter, his name is on it) and more his out of the mainstream views like legalizing all drugs so we can have more wacked out people trying to eat homeless guys faces.
A recent poll showed Ron Paul taking as much from Obama as from Romney so it wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing if it happened but it’s not gonna as I said. If you aren’t aware most Freepers have as much regard for Paul as they do Romney, which is to say they hate his guts. Yet for most people here backed his son Rand in the Senate primary anyway.
Most Freepers who can’t bring themselves to support Romney are backing Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party, who’s vote comes entirely out of Romney’s hide plus people that would otherwise stay home of course. Goode is obviously more conservative than Romney but I don’t care for him either myself. Former pawn of the tobacco industry, former democrat who enabled democrat control of the VA Senate back in the day and endorsed Doug Wilder around the time we think Romney was backing Dukakis. And his response to the 2010 landslide was to abandon the party instead of staying and trying to improve it. That kind of ‘tude makes him part of the problem, as a Canadian you know what happens when the right divides into 2 parties. If conservatives were united and had someone better than the flawed Rick Santorum we wouldn’t be having this conversion cause Romney’s a** would have been grass in the primaries.
One guy here is an advocate of the smaller “America’s Party” which will get on few if any ballots and receive an infinitesimal number of votes. But if I was gonna “waste” a vote it would be for their guy over Goode.
Paulbots will be voting for the Libertarian Gary Johnson former GOP Governor of New Mexico, who is similar to Paul except he’s more socially liberal and is not suffering from age related dementia. Since he’s pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-drugs, and pro-illegals few (none that I know of) are on his bandwagon around here even though he’d be swell on the economy and government regulation. Johnson will hopefully take votes from Obama too (Potheads + ANTI-WAR) but may guarantee Barack wins New Mexico (which Romney doesn’t need and will probably gobama anyway).
Many people are saying they’d vote Romney in a swing state but they live in democrat state Obama can’t lose or a safe Republican state so they won’t bother.
That’s getting into philosophical territory I’d rather not bother with, voting your conscience for a third party being supposedly morally better but mathematically the same thing as not voting at all or writing in “Dick Nixon” as I did once for an unopposed city office. 1 individual vote is extremely unlikely to make the difference in ANY race in any state but if the millions of people who don’t vote in part because of that reason did it would have a huge effect.
I’m keeping it simple. I want Osama to lose because I can’t stand to see him anymore or hear his snooty voice. The only place I want to see his face in the future is on a whack-a-mole game. I want his slobbering idiot supporters to suffer the dejection they deserve and be reminded that WE the decent sensible people are the majority. I want to ensure that he, the worst President ever, isn’t validated historically by being reelected. And if 1 Conservative Supreme Court Justice dies in the next 4 years and is replaced by Obama were are seriously screwed as a nation.
I respect others who feel differently because they think Romney will destroy the country too and the GOP along with it. I think he’ll be a little worse than Bush, who was bad, but hopefully he’d avoid the same blunders. If he doesn’t he’ll be a 1 termer.
Either way I love stupid analogies, Obama is trying to burn down my house and has be to stopped, he’s standing there pouring gas on it. Glove Romney as the Republican nominee is the only guy with a hose and pair of handcuffs to get rid of him. But Romney is a pyro-maniac himself and maybe (or say probably instead of maybe, or even say certainly) he’s gonna start his own fire before long. That will be dealt with when it happens. Obama wins and my house is a pile of ash tomorrow.
I’m not making a pitch for Romney I hate the guy but to make a much better analogy stolen from another freeper it’s like helping Stalin beat Hitler in WW2.
Everyone will make their own choice, I used to be on the no more RINO Presidents period train myself so I get that and I hate our RINO Presidents Bush 2, Bush 1, Ford, Nixon, Hoover, (I’ll be charitable and give Ike a pass) I hate their damn worthless guts and every one of them enabled the democrat slime that followed. Last Republican Prez that was followed by an elected Republican Prez, Reagan, before that, Coolidge. (plus Ike was middling and 1960 was a tie). That is not a coincidence.
It’s a vicious cycle. Romney’s slogan should be out of the fire and back in the frying pan.
Sorry for the long post.
WHO ????
Romney will be a disaster. Obama is already a nightmare. Ron Paul isn't running, and he never was serious anyway.
vote??
I like Scott Walker but he couldnt run this cycle.
” I like Scott Walker but he couldnt run this cycle. “
BUMP
Which is more socialism with either mitt of the fraud.. Soros thanks you for your vote.
You may as well just use the ballot for toilet paper. Would anyone even notice the smell? ;d
We vote electronic here.
Obama will win Maryland just like Romney (as McCain before him) won the Maryland primary. There is little or NO chance that anything can change those certainties.
I have no vote in that election even if I had any hope.
By analogy, pop LOTS of popcorn, settle into that comfy chair and watch Myth and Obozo slug it out. One will lose. One will win. We can briefly celebrate the loss of either one, having voted for Tom Hoefling (our own Eternal Vigilance as I will) or Virgil Goode for POTUS. Then we move in to finish off in a political Superbowl the winner of the Socialist, Baby-Killer, Marriage-Destroying, Gun Grabbing, Envirowhacko, Church Persecuting Parties' League Championship. We should nominate and elect as many brutally antiEstablishment GOP candidates to the Senate, House and governorships and state legislative seats as possible as OUR spring training and let the RESISTANCE to the Socialist, etc., League Champion hit the ground running on election night.
That ruins my joke.
Over/under 60% for Obama you think? I'm not sure. I expect a swing against Obama in every or almost every state but I think Maryland might be less Republican than it was 4 years so even if Black turnout is down as it should be I don't know if Romney can do much better than McCain's 36.5%. Hawaii, Vermont, Rhode Island, and Maryland are the only states I can see Obama maintaining over 60%.
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