Ron Paul is not going to run, that’s 100%. The reason, his son is a Republican Senator who he wants to have a future. In fact the hope of the Paul movement is being put into Rand Paul. He showed the ability to get regular conservative votes in his 2010 Senate primary. He’s a longshot VP for Romney and a possible 2016 (his Senate seat is up that year) candidate if Romney loses or 2020 candidate if he wins.
Your post seems to suggest you believe Paul could win a three-way race which is impossible, he couldn’t win a 2 way race. If he were the GOP nominee Obama would hand him his a$$ over the racist stuff from the Paul newsletters in the early 90’s (he didn’t write them but it doesn’t matter, his name is on it) and more his out of the mainstream views like legalizing all drugs so we can have more wacked out people trying to eat homeless guys faces.
A recent poll showed Ron Paul taking as much from Obama as from Romney so it wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing if it happened but it’s not gonna as I said. If you aren’t aware most Freepers have as much regard for Paul as they do Romney, which is to say they hate his guts. Yet for most people here backed his son Rand in the Senate primary anyway.
Most Freepers who can’t bring themselves to support Romney are backing Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party, who’s vote comes entirely out of Romney’s hide plus people that would otherwise stay home of course. Goode is obviously more conservative than Romney but I don’t care for him either myself. Former pawn of the tobacco industry, former democrat who enabled democrat control of the VA Senate back in the day and endorsed Doug Wilder around the time we think Romney was backing Dukakis. And his response to the 2010 landslide was to abandon the party instead of staying and trying to improve it. That kind of ‘tude makes him part of the problem, as a Canadian you know what happens when the right divides into 2 parties. If conservatives were united and had someone better than the flawed Rick Santorum we wouldn’t be having this conversion cause Romney’s a** would have been grass in the primaries.
One guy here is an advocate of the smaller “America’s Party” which will get on few if any ballots and receive an infinitesimal number of votes. But if I was gonna “waste” a vote it would be for their guy over Goode.
Paulbots will be voting for the Libertarian Gary Johnson former GOP Governor of New Mexico, who is similar to Paul except he’s more socially liberal and is not suffering from age related dementia. Since he’s pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-drugs, and pro-illegals few (none that I know of) are on his bandwagon around here even though he’d be swell on the economy and government regulation. Johnson will hopefully take votes from Obama too (Potheads + ANTI-WAR) but may guarantee Barack wins New Mexico (which Romney doesn’t need and will probably gobama anyway).
Many people are saying they’d vote Romney in a swing state but they live in democrat state Obama can’t lose or a safe Republican state so they won’t bother.
That’s getting into philosophical territory I’d rather not bother with, voting your conscience for a third party being supposedly morally better but mathematically the same thing as not voting at all or writing in “Dick Nixon” as I did once for an unopposed city office. 1 individual vote is extremely unlikely to make the difference in ANY race in any state but if the millions of people who don’t vote in part because of that reason did it would have a huge effect.
I’m keeping it simple. I want Osama to lose because I can’t stand to see him anymore or hear his snooty voice. The only place I want to see his face in the future is on a whack-a-mole game. I want his slobbering idiot supporters to suffer the dejection they deserve and be reminded that WE the decent sensible people are the majority. I want to ensure that he, the worst President ever, isn’t validated historically by being reelected. And if 1 Conservative Supreme Court Justice dies in the next 4 years and is replaced by Obama were are seriously screwed as a nation.
I respect others who feel differently because they think Romney will destroy the country too and the GOP along with it. I think he’ll be a little worse than Bush, who was bad, but hopefully he’d avoid the same blunders. If he doesn’t he’ll be a 1 termer.
Either way I love stupid analogies, Obama is trying to burn down my house and has be to stopped, he’s standing there pouring gas on it. Glove Romney as the Republican nominee is the only guy with a hose and pair of handcuffs to get rid of him. But Romney is a pyro-maniac himself and maybe (or say probably instead of maybe, or even say certainly) he’s gonna start his own fire before long. That will be dealt with when it happens. Obama wins and my house is a pile of ash tomorrow.
I’m not making a pitch for Romney I hate the guy but to make a much better analogy stolen from another freeper it’s like helping Stalin beat Hitler in WW2.
Everyone will make their own choice, I used to be on the no more RINO Presidents period train myself so I get that and I hate our RINO Presidents Bush 2, Bush 1, Ford, Nixon, Hoover, (I’ll be charitable and give Ike a pass) I hate their damn worthless guts and every one of them enabled the democrat slime that followed. Last Republican Prez that was followed by an elected Republican Prez, Reagan, before that, Coolidge. (plus Ike was middling and 1960 was a tie). That is not a coincidence.
It’s a vicious cycle. Romney’s slogan should be out of the fire and back in the frying pan.
Sorry for the long post.
WHO ????
Romney will be a disaster. Obama is already a nightmare. Ron Paul isn't running, and he never was serious anyway.
vote??
I like Scott Walker but he couldnt run this cycle.
By analogy, pop LOTS of popcorn, settle into that comfy chair and watch Myth and Obozo slug it out. One will lose. One will win. We can briefly celebrate the loss of either one, having voted for Tom Hoefling (our own Eternal Vigilance as I will) or Virgil Goode for POTUS. Then we move in to finish off in a political Superbowl the winner of the Socialist, Baby-Killer, Marriage-Destroying, Gun Grabbing, Envirowhacko, Church Persecuting Parties' League Championship. We should nominate and elect as many brutally antiEstablishment GOP candidates to the Senate, House and governorships and state legislative seats as possible as OUR spring training and let the RESISTANCE to the Socialist, etc., League Champion hit the ground running on election night.
“Either way I love stupid analogies, Obama is trying to burn down my house and has be to stopped, he’s standing there pouring gas on it. Glove Romney as the Republican nominee is the only guy with a hose and pair of handcuffs to get rid of him. But Romney is a pyro-maniac himself and maybe (or say probably instead of maybe, or even say certainly) he’s gonna start his own fire before long. That will be dealt with when it happens. Obama wins and my house is a pile of ash tomorrow.”
Very well-put. Romney sucks, but voting for him is the only way to stop Obama.
Au contraire. Your post is very well thought out and logical.
“Ron Paul is not going to run, that’s 100%. The reason, his son is a Republican Senator who he wants to have a future.”
I've thought this all along. And I'd rather have Rand Paul as VP than Jeb or Huckabee (although there are many other people I'd rather see as VP than Rand Paul).
“I’m not making a pitch for Romney I hate the guy but to make a much better analogy stolen from another freeper it’s like helping Stalin beat Hitler in WW2.”
Either Romney or Obama is going to get elected in November, it's as simple as that.
Stalin vs. Hitler...my mind wanders...
I've always thought of a scenario in which the defeat of both Germany and Japan carry out as they did. Then the Allies (minus the Soviets) unite and using the defeated Nazis as the spearhead, Russia is attacked from the West. Toss in a second front from the East (after Japan is dispatched) and the Soviets would have been in the same scenario the Nazis were in - a war on two fronts. With no one to supply them and the US having “the bomb”, Soviet Communism could have been defeated right then and there.
I know that Rommel that thought of the possibility of uniting with the Allies and militarily it could have worked quite well. IIRC, Patton also thought of uniting with the defeated European Axis powers was workable.