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To: Impy; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; BlackElk; PhilCollins; LS; ...
“Sorry for the long post.”

Au contraire. Your post is very well thought out and logical.

“Ron Paul is not going to run, that’s 100%. The reason, his son is a Republican Senator who he wants to have a future.”

I've thought this all along. And I'd rather have Rand Paul as VP than Jeb or Huckabee (although there are many other people I'd rather see as VP than Rand Paul).

“I’m not making a pitch for Romney I hate the guy but to make a much better analogy stolen from another freeper it’s like helping Stalin beat Hitler in WW2.”

Either Romney or Obama is going to get elected in November, it's as simple as that.

Stalin vs. Hitler...my mind wanders...

I've always thought of a scenario in which the defeat of both Germany and Japan carry out as they did. Then the Allies (minus the Soviets) unite and using the defeated Nazis as the spearhead, Russia is attacked from the West. Toss in a second front from the East (after Japan is dispatched) and the Soviets would have been in the same scenario the Nazis were in - a war on two fronts. With no one to supply them and the US having “the bomb”, Soviet Communism could have been defeated right then and there.

I know that Rommel that thought of the possibility of uniting with the Allies and militarily it could have worked quite well. IIRC, Patton also thought of uniting with the defeated European Axis powers was workable.

53 posted on 06/02/2012 10:19:25 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale
RE :”I've always thought of a scenario in which the defeat of both Germany and Japan carry out as they did. Then the Allies (minus the Soviets) unite and using the defeated Nazis as the spearhead, Russia is attacked from the West. Toss in a second front from the East (after Japan is dispatched) and the Soviets would have been in the same scenario the Nazis were in - a war on two fronts. With no one to supply them and the US having “the bomb”, Soviet Communism could have been defeated right then and there.

The 1980s movie Patton's Last Days was replayed on cable last week where he get’s slapped down for suggesting such a thing.

Politically it was not possible at the time. The US had spent much political capital for years both making out the USSR as heroes and Nazi Germany as demons. The Katyn Forest massacre by the USSR had been played down in the US and the US factories had been arming the USSR for years. The US government under Roosevelt was loaded with American communists sympathetic to the USSR.

Hollywood made a US movie The North Star 1943 that depicted USSR socialist small town peasants overrun by Nazi's as patriotic heroes fighting them as the resistance behind the lines. Later during the Cold War this movie became unpopular.(I found a free copy on the internet and watched it again the past year.)

So with all of the above the American voter would not understood that all their relatives in the military, many of them who sacrificed greatly, were suddenly going to attack those they were told were helping us all those years. They wanted the troops home in 1945, VE and VJ. The wake-up day was when the USSR announced that had the bomb, which they stole from us,

54 posted on 06/02/2012 11:00:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; LS; BlackElk; sickoflibs

Hitler was so arrogant and stupid. We are very fortunate, if he had avoided just a few of his worst blunders things could have gone a lot worse.


60 posted on 06/03/2012 5:34:20 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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