Posted on 05/20/2012 7:41:45 AM PDT by Kartographer
Systemic risk. I guarantee that most ordinary folks have no idea that if trucks stopped rolling all across America, within a short period of time nearly all Americans would all be in a life-threatening situation from major delivery shortages. 70% of all freight that is moved in the U.S. is done so by truck. You (we) depend on that ‘stuff’ for our survival. A major disruption in truck travel would immediately impact seven major industries, and would bring America to its knees within days due in part to “just in time manufacturing”, zero-inventory, and the fact that our modern way of life is entirely dependent upon unimpeded distribution chains.
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Ah, I use a lot of butter when I make cinnamon roll dough, plus sugar.
Salt by weight, that’s beyond my paygrade! I’d rather have just a tad less than more.
I have an old electric oven that is supposed to be counter top, but it’s on the floor, and the heat just does not circulate properly. Oh well, better than nothing. I do have a camp oven I used to use on top of a small propane camp stove and it works okay, but I can’t make the volume of loaves I like to.
Do you have a good place for oven making plans?
The marble trick works best with crappy electric ovens. Stone absorbs the heat and releases it in a controlled manner.
Instead of seeing 200F degree swings, you might see 50F swings. That matters a lot when baking.
/johnny
I am only 58 and my Grandparents and their neighbors all did such, but that’s the way it is with people who cling to their Bibles and guns.
Hmm, interesting about the marble. We had a bunch of marble but sold it at a garage sale, we’ve regretted it ever since. Does granite work or does it have to be marble? There may be some pieces of either around, and does the piece have to be just one big piece or could it be a few pieces?
I do have kitchen scales that I use for herbs. I suppose I could use them fro bread but since the recipes I have are volume, I’d have to get new recipes.
I calibrate mine with a stick of butter but silver coins might be more accurate.
All my recipes are weight, never volume.
My 'daily bread' that I kneel and give thanks for is 750 grams of flour, 22 grams of yeast, 16 grams of salt, and water as required by local weather conditions. Sometimes, I'll throw in 18 grams of mix oil.
/johnny
/johnny
I should mention that any stone you are going to introduce to the oven should be baked at about 550F before you put food in with it.
A) that puts paid to any critters and b) sometimes, heated stones explode.
/johnny
Thank you. My scales are just pounds and ounces, though. I’ll look up recipes and see if I can do the weight method.
I have a feeling I make larger batches than you do; I have a hub who eats vast quantities of bread.
What kind of flour do you use?
Hmm, now I’m skeered of stones exploding.
Flour is flour. I'm not interested in natural or organic or living forever.
/johnny
When you come back, you will know if any stones failed. I've never had one leave the oven. But they do make a hell of a noise.
/johnny
And us cheap barstids. I ate my first jalapeno pepper this morning in my breakfast burrito. It was a special event for the jalapeno.
Usually, Sunday morning breakfasts here are herring, stewed tomatoes, and beer.
But early summer calls.
/johnny
How long do the stones have to be heated for?
I like ww flour better anyway, used it my whole life. That was the flour my mother taught me with 50 years ago. I’d love to take a walk with my kids but they’re thousands of miles away.
:-)
My plan would be to eliminate interstate trucking. Trucks only from hub to local point.
There was nothing wrong with what Kartographer wrote, let alone was it “very rude”. The truth stings sometimes.
Sorry I won’t be much help not a big believer in generators for shtf as they are noisy and need fuel. I am look more toward solar.
It is not supposed to sting on here. We are all supposed to be friends. Debate, discussion, disagreement is fine but getting rude with someone is not okay.
As far as making a bigger deal of the situation that it is, mine was a passing comment, one I felt was an appropriate reminder. We all get caught up in debate, that is fine. So are reminders to keep it civil lest we end up like DU.
After that, a 20 minute pre-heat are all that is required for normal use.
/johnny
A freezer can be run off of solar power/batteries/inverter setup pretty easily. I ran everything I needed in my shop/garage off of about 1000W of panels, and 1200 VA worth of batteries with a good inverter. That includes the beer fridge and the big freezer that ran 24/7.
I couldn't run the big air compressor with it, so that either ran off the mains or a small genset.
You might be suprised at how little 'lektrikity a good freezer consumes, once it's down to operating temps.
/johnny
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