Posted on 05/11/2012 6:10:55 PM PDT by Manic_Episode
It’s your soul, you will live forever. Choose where you
want to go.
It is a grave mortal sin to vote for any person in office
who legislates abortion.
BHO and Romney are pro-aborts, maximum pro-aborts. Evil Obama shows the world by his vote he is another Herod.
Please God not man.
LOL... I like your way of putting it.
We either have a DNC sleeper rising up to commit blasphemy (sounds like a leftist strategy to call voting against Barry a sin), or someone who has invested a lot of time and money in preparing for the collapse of the Republic and longs for the chaos to apply its preparations. Either way it’s a shameful thread and not at all Christian, though it does fit the mold of the ‘Westboro Church’ dupes.
Get over yourself. The Hitler example was a classic morality hypothetical. We were discussing sin here, not elections. In fact, depending on your motives, it would not be a sin to vote for Obama either. I know plenty of good people who will do so because they are ignorant, not because they are bad people.
Is it a sin for you to use deodorant or toothpaste???
Some things don’t require the over exertion expended here.
Give unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar’s give unto God that which is God’s.
This is covered in like the first class of Statistics 101. I guess the three of you missed that class, so let me simplify it for you. Imagine a electorate of nine people: The four of us and five random voters. I hold my nose and vote for Obama. You three principled fellows exercise your right to abstain. By doing so, you have lowered the number of votes Obama needs to win from five to two. Had each of you voted Romney, Obama would have needed five for five of the random votes. The same math applies to voting for a noncompetitive third party candidate. Either way you help Obama by lowering the total number of votes he needs to win. So you can look at it any way you like, but you're still helping Obama.
And, yes, I am positive that Romney is going to suck as president. I am equally positive that Obama will be worse.
This exact scenario was what compelled Churchill to say that politics is the worst form of government devised by man, except for all the others.
“I really do not know what is confusing”
Yes, it is obvious you don’t get what this is about. First, it is not about name-calling. That only entrenches people deeper in whatever position they hold. Is that your objective? When is the last time you actually won someone to your way of thinking by calling them names?
As for the Constitution, study it a little more before commenting on it. I hate to see people embarrass themselves. It’s like that friend with toilet paper hanging off the back of their pants. How do you tell them? Well, if they are really your friend, you tell them.
So I’m telling you. The Constitution forbids the federal government from imposing a religious test to keep someone off the ballot, or from otherwise participating in the political process. But that same Constitution also allows for freedom of speech, including free political expression in the form of voting for whoever you for whatever reason you care to give, whether it be religious or secular, reasonable or fanciful. Your vote, your free expression. You are not the federal government. As a private citizen, you are fully Constitutionally protected in your right to decide against voting for a leftist Mormon who sincerely believes he will be worshipped as a god one day. Or you can think the issue is nonsense and vote for him because he’s not the other guy. God bless our crazy freedom. But do try and lose that toilet paper tail. It may be your right to wear it, but it’s not very becoming. Just sayin’ ...
That's a nice idea Danny, but unfortunately we continue to have free will (and the mortal temptataions that come with it) even after we accept Christ into our lives.
I can't see into the man's heart, but my take on it is that he leans pro-life, but showed pro-choice for political expediency.
That being said, a president's ability to affect the abortion question lies in judicial appointments. Our options are a man who promises to continue to appoint pro-abortion justices, or a man who says he won't but can't be trusted. If we are analyzing the decision on the basis of sin alone, the choice is clear as far as I am concerned.
I have told you this before, but I will remind you that I weigh the abortion issue over all other issues combined in an election. I would vote for a down the line liberal who was otherwise pro-life over a hard-core conservative who was pro-choice.
It's not just a nice idea, it's an idea that based in scripture. Yes we continue to have free will. And since we've been bought and paid for with a price, God can open a can of chastisement if He so chooses and if we warrant. God didn't make "everlasting" life dependent on our free will. Otherwise it wouldn't be "everlasting" life. It'd be, until you screw up again, life.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
A servant gets fired. An adopted child, doesn't get unadopted.
But if you want to put your faith in your own works and your own ability to be good instead of in Jesus, good luck with that.
Lol
Killing Hitler, not a sin.
Lying to grandma, probably not a sin, maybe a little one, you’d need to know more about the whole situation.
Now, if grandpa cheated on her in a one night stand 50 years earlier, and gandpa’s dead now and grandma’s a Republican candidate for president, the first woman to run for that job well then it’s definitely front page news at the WaPo.
And, better NOT to tell grandma beforehand, so’s we can get her true reaction.
“I’ve never had more loathing for a politician than Obama. He must go or we’re finished.”
The worst, and most dangerous thing about Obama is how the press covers for him.
I mean, did Hitler get press like Obama? Did Stalin get press like Obama? Does Chavez get press like Obama?
That man could roast and eat puppies in the Rose Garden and nobody in the MSM would care. As someone here said when I used this scenario before, we’d probably hear how it’s multi-culti good and nutritious.
We have to vote, in November, for the candidate with the best chance to beat Obama.
Or don’t vote for that person, if that’s how your conscious guides you.
Nobody HAS to vote to get rid of Obama, but I will.
And if that’s a sin I’ll take my lumps. I’m pretty sure voting for Romney (or the many other Rinos and dopes I’ve voted for over the years) won’t be the big mark against me when Jesus calls my name.
Not to bash him, but Ronald Reagan signed the law legalizing abortion in California. Sure, he regretted it later, but he signed it.
Now, maybe his signature was irrelevant, maybe had he vetoed it the veto would have been over ridden in the legislature.
But he signed it, and that made evil legal, if not good.
“So according to your interpretation of that scripture then the guy who turned on the gas and killed a room full Jews is not only- not guilty of anything, but is in fact committing a holy act by obeying Authority.”
I was quoting out of the book of Romans, its not an “interpretation”. Nice strawman though.
Whatever is not of faith is sin... do we have faith at all times, those who believe?
I’m not sure who you’re replying to. The vanity post doesn’t mention Mormonism. Neither did Mikey_1962.
The thread was discussing abortion among other sins. And whether the admonition that if your conscience tells you something is wrong, then it’s a sin for you even though other believers have the freedom to do the same thing. That’s only referring to things that are not specifically forbidden in Scripture.
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