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To: presidio9
"That's a nice idea Danny, but unfortunately we continue to have free will (and the mortal temptataions that come with it) even after we accept Christ into our lives."

It's not just a nice idea, it's an idea that based in scripture. Yes we continue to have free will. And since we've been bought and paid for with a price, God can open a can of chastisement if He so chooses and if we warrant. God didn't make "everlasting" life dependent on our free will. Otherwise it wouldn't be "everlasting" life. It'd be, until you screw up again, life.

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

A servant gets fired. An adopted child, doesn't get unadopted.

But if you want to put your faith in your own works and your own ability to be good instead of in Jesus, good luck with that.

131 posted on 05/12/2012 12:48:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Dan, the problem with basing one's faith on scripture alone, is that unlike with Islam, our scripture was written by men, not God. It was never intended as an eyewitness account, and is, in fact, often contradictory.

Case and point, 15 John:

“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.

So, no, we are not "saved" when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior. Instead, we have the opportunity to be saved. What we do with that opportunity is up to us. Faith without works is dead.

172 posted on 05/13/2012 12:14:02 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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