Conservatives are at it again: shooting our own. Posted on 04/12/2012 8:09:43 AM PDT by hocndoc
Conservatives are at it again: shooting our own.
When Conservatives decide not to vote for Republican candidates, Republicans lose. Conservatives lose. The Democrats, socialists, and atheists win. Obama wins.
Where Republicans voted in 2008, we won new offices. Where they voted in 2010, we won majorities. Conservatives made the difference in the winning races and in the lost races. Not only did we have fewer Republican victories in those races where Conservatives didn't vote, the races were decided by the least knowledgeable among us or by the Dems.
More than before, in conservative blogs and forums, I'm reading good men and women declare that they will never vote for Romney if he's nominated. They remind me that they were the ones who refused to vote for John McCain in 2008, or who (like me) voted for Sarah Palin and McCain just benefited as a side effect.
I certainly wish that Conservatives had found themselves working hard to force McCain to keep his promises for that last three years instead of watching Obama keep his.
And here come the third party rallies!
The problem is certainly the "GOP elite," and their support for Romney -- that's why Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum couldn't get a foothold, right? And why Newt Gingrich is still so far behind?
How many votes do you suppose the "elite" have, anyway?
Talk about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, yesterday, Rush Limbaugh warned Conservatives what may happen if the Republican nominee doesn't win. Yes, he titled the post of the segment "A Warning to the Republican Establishment," ending with a prediction that the Republican Party might never recover if "they screw this up."
The warning to the rest of us is ignored:
If this doesn't pan out to big-time electoral victory the way the establishment has it figured, then what will their excuse be? And I think I know. I think that if this campaign goes on and if it results in Obama winning, I think what the establishment is going to do is blame us. They're gonna blame us conservatives for once again being too rigid and too demanding and too narrow and unrealistic and all this, and telling us that we're the reason that Obama won.
Why not? That's exactly what happened in '06 and '08. (And don't forget Rush's own Chaos.) The media and the Left ate it up! The lesson learned was that no one can count on Conservatives. That's why we repeatedly watch people who should be our champions "pander" (Rush's word) to the "middle," the "undecideds," the independents.
Why not learn instead from successes, like the 2000 election, a victory that the Dems never saw coming? A good friend recommended that I re-read David Horowitz' "How to Beat the Democrats." One of the lessons is,
Lesson 3: There Is No Natural Conservative Majority (But You Can Create One through Political Action). The critical role Republican unity played in the election leads to a third lesson: There is no “natural” conservative majority.
. . . Such facts are no cause for conservatives to despair. What they are is a reality-check. If the conservative mission is to restore basic American values, the way conservatives fight the political battle will determine its outcome. There may be no current conservative majority in America, but there is a potential majority, if Republicans have the will and intelligence to create one.
David Horowitz (2002-10-06). How to Beat the Democrats and Other Subversive Ideas (Kindle Locations 842-843, 861-863). Spence. Kindle Edition.
Do we have the will? The intelligence? Can we forget the animosity we have had for each other the last year? Are we willing to say, "Let him who never had a change of heart cast the first stone?"
An estimated 56% - give or take - of the Republican National delegates have been decided, but 44% have not. The numbers aren't set in stone, yet, depending on what happens to the delegates who went to candidates that dropped out or in States like Iowa, where the actual choice will be made at caucus in June. "It ain't over till it's over."
I'm sure that I won't see Conservative blogs pulling their anti-Romney posts, but I hope to see a few willing to be positive and work together to ensure Primary victories for the remaining Conservative in the Republican Primary, in order to deny Romney an easy nomination. Is their motto, "Anybody but Romney," or is it, "Anybody but Obama?"
If Romney gets my vote, it'll be solely because a first-term liberal is less dangerous to the nation than a lame-duck Marxist. And because I don't see much evidence that Mitt loathes this country like Obama does. In other words, it'd be a step back from the brink - but that's all. No major change in the direction we're headed.
And with regard to that "our own" bit, I'd not be under the misapprehension that Mitt is "ours".
I understand your sentiment, but it is misplaced. The Romney thing isn’t about politics. Politics is very closely tied to personality types. Any candidate that can pull votes from the middle will never satisfy the fringe. This happens in every election.
Some personality types are always looking to lose. I see them in business and in social life as well as in voting preferences.
They think everything in the world should be about them, and when faced with facts to the contrary they react as you have seen.
When the time comes, some will quietly vote for Romney while claiming they didn’t. Others won’t. They are the ones who never vote anyway.
There are over 60 million voters who sit out each national election. The ones with the personality problems are a small part of this number. Most non-voters are simply apolitical. The grousers are a tiny fraction of that number.
But you’ll notice they insist upon they are living their ‘principles’, which is code for “I’m more important than you.”
They have my pity, I don’t get mad at them. Like the poor, they will always be around, and miserable.
No, it’s a false dichotomy to say the choice is between two forms of death.
Leonard made the point that to allow Obama to win is certain death, but the certainty is not there if he loses.
You quit too soon. We all lose, Conservatives lose.
Tell me, would you have joined a bunch of slave owners in 1775?
I think too early. SO long as Romney doesn’t have the nomination wrapped up, nobody really wants to consider the next phase. Newt is still theoretically in the race.
And I’d never expect people here to be happy about that outcome, if Gingrich doesn’t win. I think the best to hope for is that blatant falsehoods are not perpetuated, and that truth is always welcomed, even if it is undesirable.
If Romney is our nominee, that will be the time to discuss what he has promised, what he needs to be held accountable for, and I guess for some to argue that the country can’t survive Obama.
As I’ve never told anybody else how to vote, even when I have advocated for a particular candidate, I don’t expect that to change for me. I’ll be happy to explain why I’m voting a particular way (to whatever extent we will be allowed to do so if we are voting for the “wrong” person), and to argue that sitting out the election is a bad choice, but I’m not going to attack people who personally choose not to cast a vote for a candidate they do not support.
When Conservatives decide not to vote for Republican candidates, Republicans still lose. Conservatives lose. The Democrats, socialists, and atheists win. Obama wins.
Death is certain if Mittens the RINO prince reigns.
If this is my FR swan song, my opus, so be it. That’s not my intention.
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Baloney. You’ve been itching for a zot for some time. Maybe Jim will scratch that itch today. Maybe not.
But you will some day soon Ride the Lightning.
I don’t see how you can call yourself pro-life and be urging us to jump on the Mitt Romney bandwagon. Care to explain.
I’m trying not to get mad, or at least not to post mad.
Do not call me a liar, please.
A good friend likened our attempts to a lifeboat. We make trip after trip with our leaky boat, to save those we can.
Our boat is being sunk by Obama’s regulations and Holder’s refusal to defend the law.
That’s good, getting mad is a waste of time. You must understand where these people are coming from. They think they are doing the right thing.
Chasing them or trying to placate them a waste of time too. They wouldn’t be happy with anyone capable of actually winning the nomination or the election so it really doesn’t matter.
I’m not advocating that anyone “ jump on the Romney bandwagon.”
Half of the delegates aren’t chosen yet. I’m asking for less anti-Republican rants, more work to turn the tide.
You didn’t answer the question. So are you pro-choice or pro-life? We know Mitt Romney is pro-choice.
I’ve changed my mind a few times in the past, so I think others can, too. No one is hopeless.
I know we can support the quiet ones who fear to speak up, and I do believe we can change the votes in the remaining primaries.
On day of the General Election, I will have to pick either the Republican or the Democrat nominee to be whom I would rather make the next Supreme Court Justice selection. These SCOTUS Justices are appointed FOR LIFE, and they either destroy or protect my liberty by what are often narrow votes. The choice will be a no-brainer regardless of who is running against the current “man” that currently occupies the office of the POTUS.
McCain isn’t Romney. One is a sometimes adle brained old goof and the other a 24x7 liar democrat. ORomney’s track record is clear to anyone willing to see it. It seems tho most republicans prefer their own brand of tyranny. Well, OK then vote for the guy but you won’t like the outcome. I recall all manner of cheering for Scoot Brown. Now its all grousing. It was clear from the get go he wasn’t a republican...
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