JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA to APPEAR to Testify

Atlanta Admin Court ^ | 1/20/2012 | Judge Malihi

[GregNH]

Defendant, President Barack Obama, a candidate seeking the Democratic nomination for the office of the President of the United States, has filed a motion to quash the subpoena compelling his attendance at the hearing on January 26, 2012.

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

"For any who have any illusion that “originalist” Ron Paul is any better, he refuses to comment on the definition so absolutely clearly enunciated in Minor, and cited in over two dozen subsequent cases which confirm the court's recognition of Minor's precedent on NBC."

THIS

I want to hear a sincere Ron Paul fan, after having read just this thread articulate why a man ostensibly so devoted to the Constitution won't address the question of "Obama"'s eligibility vis a vis the NBC definition found in Minor vs Happersett.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks STARWISE.

[RummyChick]

Minor says NO SUCH THING and you continue to ignore it.The Chief Justice DECLINED to address anything but what was relevant to that case and CLEARLY stated so.

[RummyChick]

“The Supreme Court has never ruled on whether or not a person born abroad to two citizen parents is a natural-born citizen under the meaning of the Constitution. That’s why we need a ruling.”

Ginsburg believes that person would be an NBC. If you listen to the oral argument that I keep harping on - that even mentions Romney’s dad..you can see which way the Justices are leaning. Interestingly enough, a recent case came up discussing Nguyen and not a single word was mentioned about NBC.

As for Minor, it did not rule on ANYTHING other than what was relevant to that case...and it clearly stated there was no question that a person born here of two parents is an NBC - as to any other definitions IT REFUSED TO DISCUSS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT RELEVANT.

[Hotlanta Mike]

Well if it’s anyone OTHER than BHO than the post-racial putative POTUS has therefore admitted to having committed FRAUD!!! Good luck with that from both a criminal and civil liability aspect.

[Hotlanta Mike]

shot one back to you bz...check your mail!!!

[RummyChick]

People ask why there was a divorce if there was never a marriage.

There could be many many many reasons.

Buried in Lolo’s files are comments about needing a divorce decree from the first marriage. Without a decree Lolo’s assignment/cover is blown as would be Ann’s cover.

I subscribe to the theory that the family was involved with the spooks. I don’t have an opinion as to whether our President was but I certainly do believe his family was involved with the spooks.

So, it can be easy to see why a mysterious marriage would need a divorce decree for assignment Number 2 - off to Indonesia - even if there had been no marriage to begin with- because Ann’s and Sr’s story is there was a marriage.

I do think the stage is being set for Sr being thrown under the bus.

I said on this site repeatedly that those interested in this story should get Sr’s file but no one would do it. I can understand why as I didn’t want to do it either.

Then all of a sudden it pops up. That file puts things in perspective. Could the author have been an Obama operative??? Don’t know ..didn’t look into it.

[PA-RIVER]

Correct Bluecat.

W@e know that his mother removed him from her passport because he was an Indonesian citizen. So the state department probably had some document with this data.

He needs to exit Indonesia, but he legally can't.

Either the family comes up with the idea to affirm his kenyan citizenship or a lawyer insists it must be done to get him back to the USA. So they call Obama Sr. and he gets the boy a Kenyan passport and possibly a court order from a Kenyan court. He wants his Kenyan boy out of Indonesia, and legally demands it.

[Seizethecarp]

“Citizenship is often, as was the case in the US and Britain, carried by the father, as Ann became a British subject by marrying Barack, if she did.”

I see no provision of the 1948 BNA making Ann a UK subject by marrying BHO Sr.

Since the 1920’s under US law, Ann would not lose her US citizenship by marrying an alien.

[Hotlanta Mike]

Whoa! Why would Issa cave now that they’ve got big players pleading the 5th? That makes no sense whatsoever, unless there’s crooked stuff going on underneath it all - like threats being made to Issa...

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It appears these DOJ guys are into a lot of things...

‘Holder, Breuer connected to players in foreclosure fraud?’

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/20/holder-breuer-connected-to-players-in-foreclosure-fraud/

[bluecat6]

You now wright for SNL???

What an opening skit!

[RummyChick]

What a Judge thinks in the US does not negate British Citizenship law.

Britain had very complex citizenship laws that were well discussed because of the various countries under their rule.

Kezia’s marriage would be recognized even if there was no official record in some clerks office.

The hitch to this is the theory about Sr being in the US before certain events. I believe it centers on an interview by Sr to a paper. I don’t remember the details.

[RummyChick]

“That type of citizen cannot possibly be anything but Natural Born. Minor vs Happersett stated such simply and eloquently”

It did not and I don’t understand why people here keep claiming it did.

[Hotlanta Mike]

What was the point of BHO flying to Hawaii around 1972 to visit with SAD and little Barry? I believe it had to do something with re-instating BHO as the legal father (thereby reversing the adoption by Soetoro), was it not?

[Hotlanta Mike]

My client has recently learned...

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How recently?

[RummyChick]

For those that keep misquoting Minor..here it is again:

"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.
For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.

It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens"



This means that they have indicated one definition but DECLINE to address whether there are other definitions because IT IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE PARTICULARS OF THE CASE.

[Godebert]

" want to hear a sincere Ron Paul fan, after having read just this thread articulate why a man ostensibly so devoted to the Constitution won't address the question of "Obama"'s eligibility vis a vis the NBC definition found in Minor vs Happersett. "

None of the republican candidate-cowards will address this issue. They will NOT uphold their sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

[Seizethecarp]

“I've seen somewhere where Barak Sr. claimed he had left Kenya earlier than the dates of the marriage.”

There was one article in one paper in HI which did not quote BHO Sr but said, in the voice of the reporter, that BHO Sr. had been out of Kenya for a number of years prior to arrival in HI. This would have precluded BHO Sr from being he father of Kezia’s two oldest children, Malik and Auma. Auma was born in 1960 a few months AFTER BHO Sr arrived in HI consistent with Kezia's story in the Daily Mail.

There is zero corroboration for this statement, only in the one HI story and not a quote from BHO, that he did not go directly from Kenya to Hawaii and lots of corroboration that he went directly from Kenya to HI, such as other newspaper stories and the American missionaries who funded him.

There is zero corroboration that BHO Sr was affirmatively in any other location between Kenya and HI.

[Hotlanta Mike]

Van Irion is not disputing that Obama is a US citizen, he is in fact even stipulating that fact.

Van Irion is stating that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I’m not asking “Why not bury this?”

My comment was about what would happen if this can’t be buried.

I remember when Maxine Waters said, “Unleash us, Mr. President.” She was saying, let the Black Caucus and the black constituents roar and demand that we are given what we deserve. She wants to use black anger and belief of injustice as a weapon.

I live in Georgia. I know what could happen in Atlanta if that happens.

It isn’t that I believe that black people cannot think. I simply believe this would be the mother of all opportunities to make this a race issue. I believe there are too many people that use our history of slavery, our clumsy way that we have addressed that, and national guilt against the entire nation. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Tavis Smiley and others in the wings would use this as a flash point to tear into the soul of what it means to be an American.

I think that’s why the Republicans and the GOP have sat quiet for all this time. I think that’s why the powers that be, the Republican Representatives and Senators feel they have their hands tied. They are part of the corrupt system. If they raise their voices about how Obama has circumvented justice, the light might be turned on them. They might be found guilty of stomping our Constitution into the dirt as well.

My concern is not the Republicans, Congress or the Senate. My concern is what the people will be facing if this powder keg erupts.

If that happens, I see blood in the streets. Just like the Weather Underground wanted in their plans to revolutionize America.