Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Beware of conservatives who see benefit in Obama's re-election
Coach is Right ^ | 1/05/2012 | Doug Book

Posted on 01/05/2012 9:16:42 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

At least one well-known conservative has begun speaking out-loud the notion that an Obama re-election might not be the very worst thing that could happen, either to the nation or to Republicans—even to REAL Republicans–that is, conservatives, members of the Party base whose mistrust of Obama is nearly equaled by their mistrust of Mitt Romney and the 2008 ‘Ghost of Romney past’, John McCain.

The best-selling author of “Looking out for Number One” and “Restoring the American Dream”, Robert Ringer has been a Libertarian/conservative for decades.

And given 5 decades of Libertarian leanings, his support of Ron Paul should surprise no one.

But just prior to the Iowa Caucus, Ringer decided that should Ron Paul run the independent, third party campaign many so fear him capable of “and it resulted in Obama’s re-election, [Ringer] would be fine with that if it keeps Romney from taking the reins of power and feeding us small doses of socialism day in and day out.” (1)

He argues that as Obama’s 2008 election gave rise to the Tea Party movement, a repeat performance in 2012 could only re-invigorate that early, contagious Tea Party spirit which Ringer has found wanting over the past year.

“Early on, I said that I preferred Obama over McCain because his Marxist agenda would finally wake up millions of apathetic Americans,” Ringer recalls of his 2008 position. (1)

“Unfortunately, the Tea Party has not kept the heat on either Obama or Congress. But if Obama is re-elected, maybe Tea Partiers will be jolted into rising up in earnest — 365 days a year — and will get serious about taking back America,” he continues. (1)

Well there is little question that Romney is hardly more than a younger version of John McCain...

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: conservatives; election; johnmccain; libertarianism; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; obama; republicans; robertringer; ronpaul
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-50 next last

1 posted on 01/05/2012 9:16:52 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.


2 posted on 01/05/2012 9:21:11 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax
I can see some benefits, namely he would do so much damage to the country and by extension the Dem party we would win in a walk in ‘16. We have good candidates coming up in ‘16 as well. The problem is that he will give the left a a majority of the supreme court and many other judges that the Constitution would be declared unconsitional. I think I will stick with kicking him out.
3 posted on 01/05/2012 9:25:17 AM PST by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

The elite just don’t get the TEA movement at all do they?

TEA party members work and take care of business - until there are primaries or elections.

What does he think happened in 2010...???

In only 3 years the TEAs have had a huge influence on elections; local, County, State and National...without crony corporate or special interest funding. No lawless protests, no favored MSM coverage.. just well-earned tears, sweat and patriotism.


4 posted on 01/05/2012 9:26:04 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

I would say beware of the GOP establishment who see a benefit in electing RINOs.


5 posted on 01/05/2012 9:26:54 AM PST by taxcontrol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

A bit like tossing your kid in to the deep end of the pool hoping he learns to swim. I’ve had enough “tough love” the past four years, Obama must go!


6 posted on 01/05/2012 9:28:28 AM PST by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nateman
Agree with you notwithstanding my respect for Robert Ringer.
In a second BO administration, the "small doses of socialism" would become a hot-shot OD that would finish off freedom in America.
7 posted on 01/05/2012 9:28:52 AM PST by stormhill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax
Liberal

Libertarian

I see a pattern! If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck . . . !

8 posted on 01/05/2012 9:31:06 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bilhosty
I don't know who Ringer is, but his logic is flawed.

Just ask the Germans how the elections of 1937 went, or the Russians about the elections of 1921.

What do you means they were never held? Their Constitutions called for elections!

9 posted on 01/05/2012 9:32:01 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: taxcontrol

Exactly the mindset which brought our nation B.H.O.!!


10 posted on 01/05/2012 9:32:22 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: bilhosty
I can see some benefits, namely he would do so much damage to the country and by extension the Dem party we would win in a walk in ‘16. We have good candidates coming up in ‘16 as well. The problem is that he will give the left a a majority of the supreme court and many other judges that the Constitution would be declared unconstitutional. I think I will stick with kicking him out.

That is the real answer. We cannot survive another Obama term. By 2016, there won't be a country left to save.

11 posted on 01/05/2012 9:32:31 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Nateman

Way too early to be talking like this. We have to start with the premise that our first and most important goal is removing Obama. All internal fighting, all personal agendas have to take a back seat!


12 posted on 01/05/2012 9:32:38 AM PST by elvis-lives
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: taxcontrol

Shortsighted. Unwaivering adherence to dogma will result in disaster. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing. If my choice is between Bam Bam & Slick Willard, I’d hold my nose & vote for Slick Willard. I won’t cut off my nose to spite my face.


13 posted on 01/05/2012 9:33:54 AM PST by sofaman (An enemy generally says and believes what he wishes. Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

Four more years of obama = two more marxist SC Justices = America’s total destruction. That is all that matters.


14 posted on 01/05/2012 9:36:39 AM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bilhosty
I can see some benefits, namely he would do so much damage to the country and by extension the Dem party we would win in a walk in ‘16. We have good candidates coming up in ‘16 as well.

He has already done extensive damage to our country. Obama has to be stopped now.

Don't bet on a walk in 2016 for a Republican President. That mistake has been played out before. And what good candidates coming up in '16 are you referring to?

15 posted on 01/05/2012 9:39:25 AM PST by mtg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

bfl


16 posted on 01/05/2012 9:40:15 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax
I won't be voting for Romney in the primary. I may hold my nose in the general for one reason. SCOTUS. Why?

Ginsburg - 78 years old Scalia - 75 years old Kennedy - 75 years old Breyer - 73 Thomas - 63 Alito - 61 Sotomayor - 57 Roberts - 56 Kagan - 51

17 posted on 01/05/2012 9:51:25 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mtg

“And what good candidates coming up in ‘16 are you referring to? “

Jindal, Portman, McDonnell, Rubio and Martinez and who knows who else we will have ready. We will have an ebrassment of riches then.


18 posted on 01/05/2012 9:51:56 AM PST by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

The country is already bankrupt the debt exceeds our GDP the future of trajectory of the debt under the Obama plan is unsustainable and Obama and the Dems have just begun their redistribution campaign, there are still 20 million or more illegals that are entitled to some free stuff. The end result will be a massive debt that will ultimately be paid by the middle class driving the middleclass down to the same level as the poor in effect creating the equality that the Liberals want.

The most important thing that can happen for Conservatives is that the candidate must articulately and highlight the dramatic differences between fiscal conservatism and the progressive marxism that has been the halmark of BO.

Then after they are adequately warned of the consequences of continuing down this path of unsustainable unfunded liabilities and wealth transfer to the unproductive members of this society, if America chooses the path of Communism than it gets what it elects and all we can do then is protect our own.


19 posted on 01/05/2012 9:53:32 AM PST by Typical_Whitey (Democrat socialist engineering of America is treason.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

Well there are plenty of them right here on FR. Hopefully they get the zot. If this becomes a pro_o board I am outta here.


20 posted on 01/05/2012 9:55:21 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-50 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson