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Gunwalker: Smoking Gun Email?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 13, 2011 | Patrick Richardson

Posted on 07/14/2011 2:41:15 PM PDT by Kaslin

An internal ATF email seems to support the assertion that Fast and Furious was a PR stunt for gun control.

PJM’s Bob Owens has long speculated that the primary reason for Operation Fast and Furious was to perpetuate the lie that 90 percent of illegal firearms in Mexico were from the United States.

Owens’ assertion was buoyed on Wednesday by internal ATF emails obtained by Townhall.com. One email reads:

Can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same FfL and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks Mark R. Chait Assistant Director Field Operations.

This would seem to be a “smoking gun” for Owens’ assertion that this operation was never about crime and always about an “under the table” effort to institute the gun control Obama knew he could never push through Congress.

Additionally, Obama has just issued an executive order which requires gun dealers in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California to report multiple long gun (rifle or shotgun) purchases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in order to combat illegal firearms trafficking along the Mexican border.

The National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action fired back at President Obama’s order. Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA-ILA, said they will be filing a lawsuit against the new order the first time ATF tries to enforce it. He noted that criminals generally don’t fill out forms:

$40 billion transnational criminal enterprises don’t fill out paperwork and are not deterred by paperwork violations. This is a blatant effort by the Obama administration and ATF to divert focus of Congress and the general public from their gross incompetence in the Fast and Furious scandal. This scheme will unjustly burden law-abiding retailers in border states. It will not affect drug cartels and it won’t prevent violence along our borders. ATF and the administration lack the statutory authority to do this and the NRA will file suit as soon as ATF sends the first demand letters.

Obama’s order is awash in hypocrisy per the details of the Gunwalker scandal. It was the ATF which ordered gun dealers to make multiple sales of military-style and .50 caliber sniper rifles to known and suspected straw purchasers in the Operation Fast and Furious debacle, in which more than 2,500 weapons were allowed to walk across the border by the ATF. The dealers were already reporting multiple long gun sales and the ATF told them to make the sales anyway.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform who has been investigating the mess form the beginning, said the executive order was about politics:

This political maneuver seems designed to protect the careers of political appointees at the Justice Department and not public safety. It’s disconcerting that Justice Department officials who may have known about or tried to cover-up gunwalking in Operation Fast and Furious are continuing attempts to distract attention from clear wrongdoing. In Operation Fast and Furious, gun dealers didn’t need this regulation as they voluntarily provided ATF agents with information about suspected straw purchasers. In return for this voluntary cooperation, the Justice Department betrayed them by offering false assurances that they would closely monitor sales of weapons that dealers otherwise did not want to make.

Sen. Charles Grassley, (R-IA), ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee, was equally outraged by the executive order:

We’ve learned from our investigation of Fast and Furious that reporting multiple long gun sales would do nothing to stop the flow of firearms to known straw purchasers because many Federal Firearms Dealers are already voluntarily reporting suspicious transactions. In fact, in just the documents we’ve obtained, we are aware of 150 multiple long gun sales associated with the ATF’s Fast and Furious case, and despite the fact that nearly all of these sales were reported in real time by cooperating gun dealers, the ATF watched the guns be transported from known straw purchasers to third parties and then let the guns walk away, often across the border. This makes it pretty clear that the problem isn’t lack of burdensome reporting requirements. The administration’s continued overreach with regulations continues, and is a distraction from its reckless policy to allow guns to walk into Mexico.

Two U.S. law enforcement agents are dead because of this operation, and a reported 150 Mexican citizens are as well. Additionally, the guns are now showing up in U.S. crimes.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; constitution; dea; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; ffgate; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; melson; obama; scandal
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To: Kaslin
Certainly not. I think it's beyond any possibility of covering up, whitewashing or ignoring now though. With e-mails like this surfacing and the raw fact that around 2,000 of these "walked" guns are still out there it's just getting too hot to go away.

We all know that Hezbollah is very active in Mexico and working with the drug cartels. Now imagine that an 0bama-armed Hezbollah attack occurs on this side of the border. God forbid that that should happen but if it does I almost hope the MSM tries to brush it off so the American people can clearly see what they are all about too.

21 posted on 07/14/2011 4:09:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Terabitten

Thanks for this post. I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I’ve wondered why these weapons were ‘recovered’ at crime scenes. Is that not sort of creepy?


22 posted on 07/14/2011 4:16:26 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: MestaMachine

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23 posted on 07/14/2011 5:25:08 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: TigersEye
Here we go! Now that gun is really smoking.
This is a snake in the grass that is heading fast for the brush! The EO should be attacked just as harshly as F&F now before it slips people's minds. Look how many forgot about the light bulb ban until they were reminded.
These hearings on F&F will be going on for a while. This EO needs to be stopped and stopped fast!

That EO lasts until Congress acts against it or it is revoked by another EO.

Federalism Executive Order 13083 by Clinton comes to mind. He had to revoke it due to Congressional and public opposition.

24 posted on 07/14/2011 8:10:02 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kaslin
If liberals can't 'win' fairly, they cheat. This tactic - killing innocent people while arming animals is classic... Dems couldn't shove gun control down our throats with the facts that exist, so they decided to make up some 'facts' that might work.

This appears to be criminal.

25 posted on 07/14/2011 8:15:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if I'm paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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To: philman_36
I'm not sure his EO really means much. I think it was already a requirement of all FFL holders to report suspicious purchases and attempts to purchase. Even if it wasn't Phoenix ATF agents have already gone on the record as saying that all the gun shops in their jurisdiction were calling them up about the straw buyers.

This was almost purely a propaganda move aimed at creating a distraction and a veneer of responsibility.

26 posted on 07/14/2011 8:42:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Kaslin

We need a Special Prosecutor!!


27 posted on 07/14/2011 8:49:52 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Terabitten
In other words, for Operation F&F to be successful, the criminal would have to commit a *SECOND* crime (ie, murder in addition to illegal possesion of a firearm), AND drop the firearm at the scene where it could be recovered.

That's an underlying truth about F&F few others mention.

The bad guys must believe their position is unassailable to exhibit such arrogance.

28 posted on 07/14/2011 9:08:39 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: Kaslin
Two U.S. law enforcement agents are dead because of this operation, and a reported 150 Mexican citizens are as well.

If I'm reading this correctly, these are just the ones we know about. There could be a lot more. Right?

29 posted on 07/14/2011 10:06:32 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

You want a guess? There is probably a F&F clone currently or formerly being run out of just about every border state ATF office.


30 posted on 07/14/2011 10:16:21 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
I was referring to the number of deaths attributed to F&F guns. Am I right that there may be quite a few more that we don't know about?

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As to your speculation, it would not surprise me at all if it turns out to be right. If it does, I'll remember your post.

31 posted on 07/14/2011 10:32:29 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Spktyr

“There is probably a F&F clone currently or formerly being run out of just about every border state ATF office.”

Like this one?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2748754/posts

ATF Florida Gun Probe Earns Congressional Scrutiny in Wake of ‘Fast and Furious’

Several lawmakers are questioning the Obama administration about whether the controversial “Fast and Furious” gunrunning probe may have had a cousin in Florida that resulted in guns being trafficked to Central America.

Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla., penned a letter Tuesday to Attorney General Eric Holder and ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson inquiring about a program known as “Operation Castaway.” Other top lawmakers are also starting to look into it, though ATF claims the program was above board and not similar to Operation Fast and Furious at all.


32 posted on 07/14/2011 10:43:05 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin ("Credit is the ruination of a nation")
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To: Ken H

Well, I don’t think it’s necessarily a matter of a coverup but simply that the connection hasn’t been made yet.

I *am* certain that there will be more casualties going forward and that more will be added in review as reports trickle in.


33 posted on 07/14/2011 11:16:01 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Like that one (but I already mentioned that), but not including it. I suspect that if you look hard enough you will find an F&F modeled operation either previous or ongoing in every border state and every southeastern port state.


34 posted on 07/14/2011 11:17:12 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Kaslin

BUMP


35 posted on 07/14/2011 11:24:37 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: samtheman

PR (public realtions) stunt isn’t even what the Obama administration were looking for. Try false flag operation on for size. It is more to the point though not exact.


36 posted on 07/14/2011 11:34:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: philman_36

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37 posted on 07/15/2011 5:09:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: TigersEye
I think it was already a requirement of all FFL holders to report suspicious purchases and attempts to purchase.
Then if that is what you think then you need to ask yourself a question - Why is an EO needed when a law already covers it.

And so far I haven't seen the text of the this purported EO. If you know where it's at I'd like to see the text to compare to the law.
FFL NEWSLETTER FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE INFORMATION SERVICE
FFLs and law enforcement have a long-standing history of mutual support and concern for public safety. Therefore, we ask you to report suspicious activity by purchasers or attempted purchasers.

A law, or EO, orders or mandates. A Newsletter asks. Where's the Law? /WTB! Old Lady
Which law orders them to report anything?
As far as I can see at this point it's voluntary reporting and nothing more.
I'm looking.

38 posted on 07/15/2011 5:13:19 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Joe Brower; TigersEye

Despite the protests of gun dealers who wished to terminate these transactions, your Administration reportedly encouraged violations of federal firearms laws — and undermined the firearm industry’s concerted efforts to deter straw purchases through the “Don’t Lie for the Other Guy” program. We hope you agree with our belief that this burgeoning scandal merits a full and independent investigation.

Still sounds voluntary.

39 posted on 07/15/2011 5:32:09 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Joe Brower; TigersEye
As to this purported EO I see why the early push was made.
S.570
A bill to prohibit the Department of Justice from tracking and cataloguing the purchases of multiple rifles and shotguns.
40 posted on 07/15/2011 5:48:15 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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