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1 posted on 06/24/2011 7:57:23 AM PDT by Walter Scott Hudson
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
Why Are Conservatives Supporting the National Popular Vote?

Because they're suicidal? Because they're really useful idiots for the 'progressive agenda'? Could be either one. Time will tell.

2 posted on 06/24/2011 8:01:55 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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Why Are Conservatives Supporting the National Popular Vote?

Supreme ignorance...


3 posted on 06/24/2011 8:05:31 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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We want every vote to count so that presidential candidates will be forced to weigh every state instead of a few battlegrounds

Riiiiiiggghhhhtt....I'm sure the good people of Wyoming, North Dakota, et al will be just thrilled at the jump in campaign activity. If you wrote this, you are delusional.

No true conservative would support this. Why? Because we tend to conserve institutions.

Going the NPV route would result in the political equivalent of "free beer" to New York, California, and a couple of other large states constituting an electoral majority. Can you not see that?

5 posted on 06/24/2011 8:07:07 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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We don’t need a “magic wand” change to the process.

The underlying fundamental is the character and morals of the population. The more work that is done towards promoting a population of good character and morals, the more the voting process - even the current one - will result in candidates being elected who share the same good qualities.


6 posted on 06/24/2011 8:08:32 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (PC's Tavern...)
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I would support an amendment to allocate EVs by Congressional District (plus awarding the 2 senate seats by overall state winner) or by county.

Not the NPV though.


7 posted on 06/24/2011 8:08:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (Cain/Bachmann, Bachmann/Rubio, or, if you really want some fun, Cain/McCotter in 2012!)
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Why Are Conservatives Supporting the National Popular Vote?

Because they are idiots. No one who calls himself "conservative" should support NPV because NPV was never the law of the land when it came to electing Presidents. Ever.

0bama is in serious trouble. The Democrats always throw out NPV as a "solution" to a "problem" (which of course doesn't exist) whenever they need helpful fraud in major cities to negate red state voters.

8 posted on 06/24/2011 8:08:45 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Don’t they realize that four liberal states would then control the country? It was fun explaining the electoral college to my Aussie mates.


11 posted on 06/24/2011 8:14:44 AM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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Mob rule has always been a bad idea. The Founding Fathers knew what they were doing.


13 posted on 06/24/2011 8:15:42 AM PDT by MNnice (Showing fresh signs of liberalitis, the strain of the orbital muscles due to excessive eye rolling)
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...state-by-state initiative to establish a National Popular Vote...

Anybody else see the supreme irony of that?

The real problem here is not merely that NPV gives disproportionate representation to the big population centers. It might even be possible to make a rational argument for that but only — and here is the real issue — if we intend to jettison the federal system and replace it with an even larger, more powerful, central government. That is the real agenda of the left. Centralized consolidation of power. NPV is just one of the means to achieve it.

16 posted on 06/24/2011 8:19:47 AM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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The ultimate result would be to vastly extend the reach of vote fraud in the heavily populated blue states. That’s why the leftists are pushing the idea.


17 posted on 06/24/2011 8:20:45 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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Every vote does count. Each state lets its voter determine how the state will cast its delegates in the national election. The separate sovereign states are the foundation of our Republic but the liberals can’t handle that. They want totalitarian central control.

The 10th Amendment has been raped for so long, most people are currently clueless as to what Federalism is and how it was meant to work.

Beyond that, I don’t believe this article for one minute. It is the liberals who are demanding an end to the electoral college, not conservatives.


23 posted on 06/24/2011 8:26:39 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: Sarah, they called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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Because they are idiots.

A true conservative favors limiting the franchise to landowners and veterans.

25 posted on 06/24/2011 8:31:08 AM PDT by jboot
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Because you and anyone like you that went to a public school in the last 40 years are nothing short of communists!

When I went to school democracy was considered a swear word and the worst form of government that was ever thought of.


28 posted on 06/24/2011 8:36:46 AM PDT by dalereed
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Ignorance!


29 posted on 06/24/2011 8:36:55 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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I have NO clue. I can’t figure this one out.


32 posted on 06/24/2011 8:46:30 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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I don’t know any Conservatives supporting “National Popular Vote.”
Almost by definition, if they ARE supporting it, they are not Conservative...


34 posted on 06/24/2011 8:50:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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Why Are Conservatives Supporting the National Popular Vote?

Because it is too easy to fool people these days. Republicans thought Trump was honest. Now they think Romeny and Perry are honest. It is too easy to fool people.

35 posted on 06/24/2011 8:54:03 AM PDT by bmwcyle
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I'm against NPV. The electoral college system is sufficient, and there are ramifications of NPV which can have a negative effect of the public perception of electoral outcome.

Under the current system, a President could be elected by a minority of the vote, but with a majority of the electoral votes. NPV would eliminate that, and in doing so, seriously undermine the concept of the confederation of states which, geographically and culturally, help make this country what it is.

Ultimately, NPV helps make majority tyranny easier, and as such all Americans should be opposed to it, on general principle.

How many of you would like to be ruled over by the liberal-soaked states such as New York, California, and Massachusetts? Under the NPV scenario, vast majorities in states like that could vote, say, 90%-10% for some "bocialist" candidate, while in the 45 or so remaining states, there could be a closer race, and yet, because of the lopsided majorities in the "liberal" states, the whole middle of the country would be ruled over by the "bocialists".

NO THANKS.

36 posted on 06/24/2011 8:56:26 AM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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I wanted to emphasize that the "anti-democratic" aspects of the electoral college are a good thing, and the public debate should make clear that trends towards pure democracy are dangerous and undesirable, and anyone who preaches otherwise is either disingenuous or philosophically suspect.
37 posted on 06/24/2011 9:00:52 AM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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All you need to know about this system is that California will decide every election.

The End.

(And I’m a Californian.)


39 posted on 06/24/2011 9:06:20 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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