Oh, we'll hear from Trump and assorted RINOs. I forgot about that.
We've really lost a fairly valuable resource. (Never as valuable as FR, but still...)
Posted on 04/18/2011 3:59:30 AM PDT by jenk
Donald Trump was a topic of discussion at work the other day. It was right after we heard Trump on Rush Limbaugh's radio show. Every lady in the room shook her head.
First of all, Trump seems kind of cheap. This is beside the point of my main thrust here, but I want to mention it because I was kind of put off. Friday's show was the annual Cure-A-Thon for Leukemia/Lymphoma that Rush does every year. Rush started off the show by announcing that he and Katherine would contribute $500,000. A half a mil.
Now, Trump has been handing money out to Democrats his whole career, and all he could muster for the poor cancer folks was a measly $100,000? Awkward!
Back to work. The ladies and I listened to Trump, some of the stuff he said really jumped out. There is a lot that Trump said that is worthy of needling, but just at face value, Trump doesn't make enough sense to make us want to vote for him. From Rush's site:
"I'm doing great -- and, by the way, if I run, then you'll see how great I've done. Because I'll put in a financial statement which will knock people's socks off. Just knock their socks off -- and, you know, I'm very proud of it. So I'll make a decision prior to June, and we'll see what happens."He's a salesman. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but you have to go on faith. Some of his deals in the past have been great, but some have been monumentally bad. I mean, really, really bad, believe me.
If you listen to him long enough, you start to talk/write like him, believe me. A lot of his sentences end with "believe me."
"DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, you're right, Rush, but I will say this. You know, I've dealt with Democrats and Republicans all my life, and somebody said, "Oh, do you have that much experience politically?" You know, I've dealt -- and understand this better than anybody. I've dealt with politicians all of my life. I've also dealt with foreign countries. I'm doing jobs all over the world. I've dealt with foreign countries for a long period of time. The fact is, I think somebody that got along with the Democrats -- and I do get along -- now, you know, that could change instantaneously. You understand that. But the level of animosity... You know, in the old days "across the aisle" wasn't the worst thing. People got along. Today, the level of hatred, the level of anger -- and I'm the most militaristic person there is, if they treat me improperly. But I think having a little bit of a relationship on the other side of the aisle is not so bad, Rush, where deals can be made. But good deals, not the deal like Obama gave the other day."
So what did he basically say? I deal with the dems, I deal with the Chinese, I deal with Republicans.... that's what he is, a dealer, a wheeler dealer, a deal-maker. A negotiator. A compromise-maker. I don't want to make a deal, compromise whatever. For me, he's a deal-breaker, and the ladies at work think so too.
When Rush put some hard truth to the Donald, Trump reacted in a very curious way.
RUSH: But they're not gonna want you to succeed at anything. They will stop progress for America. Your relationship with them will change once you become elected. If you become president, you might have the ability to bring them in line, but they will not start that way. They will be out to destroy you to preserve their way of life, their political ideology. Remember, their power derives from creating more and more people dependent on government for their daily needs.DONALD TRUMP: Right.
RUSH: You don't believe that.
DONALD TRUMP: Rush, you're probably right and probably it won't work out in the kind of manner which makes sense and would be good and then they'll see the real Donald Trump, because I do much better under adversity than I do the other way. I'd love to see it work where people could actually get together and go down the line and straighten out this country. You're probably right, and that's fine, and then I'll do I think an even better job.
Trump said, the best laid plans don't work out, but then, then I'll really shine, believe me.
No, I don't think so. These aren't policies and directions for the country. These are brags on the ability of a prolific builder of buildings. The first thing a salesman has to do is convince his investors that he has a plan. Trump doesn't do that. He asks us to rely on trust and belief. How different is that from Obama's campaign? Not much.
One other thing marked our workday conversation. Trump seems like the kind of guy that gets his mind set on big deals, and does not let go. No matter what the obstacle, the cost, the insanity of the deal, he seems like the type who will double down, and for what? Not to lead the nation, but to win the contest at becoming President. We all agreed that that egotism is dangerous.
Oh, we'll hear from Trump and assorted RINOs. I forgot about that.
We've really lost a fairly valuable resource. (Never as valuable as FR, but still...)
I was stating facts in my posts as well.
These people get up in the morning and decide what most Americans will be concerned with.
Fox is better than the other MSM, at least they usually come up with original dialog instead of the approved script.
I will still have Fox on most of the time in the background but I am very disappointed in their movement to the left since the first of the year, and in the clear anti-conservative bias of Rove, Krauthammer, etc.
Clearly Beck and Palin don’t feel comfortable there anymore. And the rumors are that Rupert Murdock’s son is a big lib and will take over the channel, so it will probably get worse and lose money in the future.
Maybe Beck will start his own channel. That would be a welcome developement. There has to be someone thinking of coming up with a more conservative challenger to Fox since they are abandoning a good market.
Astroturf Astroturf Astroturf Away .
Trump has taken on this petty American hater and The Obama media spin machine unlike the Karl Rove clowns like Romney, The Huck, and Pawlentry and Daniels.
Trump has busted the Barry is untouchable bubble.
He is dismantling Barry paper tiger act RIGHT NOW !
And You want to shut him UP.
Now why is that ???
What is YOUR AGENDA to stop someone from bringing energy and excitement to the 2012 GOP ticket and takikng down this Soros puppet ??????
What is your REAL AGENDA HERE ??????
Trump has taken on this petty American hater and The Obama media spin machine unlike the Karl Rove clowns like Romney, The Huck, and Pawlentry and Daniels.
Trump has busted the Barry is untouchable bubble.
He is dismantling Barry paper tiger act RIGHT NOW !
And You want to shut him UP.
Now why is that ???
What is YOUR AGENDA to stop someone from bringing energy and excitement to the 2012 GOP ticket and taking down this Soros puppet ??????
What is your REAL AGENDA HERE ??????
Excerpt of jenk’s post: “He’s a salesman.”
I posted in response to Jenk: “So was Ross Perot.”
You posted in response to me: “So is 0bama!”
My response to you: I guess that he has sold us all on the fact that he is a loser qualifies him as a salesman.
Hey everyone, let’s join the MSM strategy to discredit Trump the messenger who’s basically the only one who’s attacking Obama on a daily basis!
Jen K, did you contribute over $100,000 to cancer on Trump’s show?
Trump is taking down the Marxist and he wants to stop HIM !!
What is the phony ‘s real agenda here and who is paying for these websites created in someones garage !
What makes you think Trump is taking BO down. All he’s doing is getting a lot of free airtime so far.
False dichotomy. I’m for Palin, and will never back a RINO. I’m against Trump because his very late arrival to the conservative cause casts doubt on his sincerity. Mark Levin is also busily trashing Trump. Is he a RINO Troll too? Who’s he backing? Hard to tell for sure but it sounds like Bachmann and Palin are on his short list. He even includes Santorum as a hat tip to obvious sincere conservatism in a candidate.
So please spare us the slanderous innuendo that whoever trashes Trump is doing it as a Huck/Romney loving, RINO-backing, self-promoting bloggers. Take a survey. I’ll bet 99% of the Trump trashers here at FR are Palin or Bachmann backers who have no blogs to pimp but do see Trump as a false flag designed to defeat conservative interests in the coming election.
BTW, normally, conservatives on conservative sites like FR actually care about candidates being conservative. What a concept, eh? That means they have a working definition of conservative that includes such things as adherence to the founding principles enunciated in the Declaration and the Constitution, which in turn includes such things as the right to life, liberty, and property.
Trump has evinced real problems with some of those principles. His treatment of Vera Coking drowns out all his self-professed conservatism, as he was willing to drive her out of her rightful home using eminent domain. Any half-wit constitutionalist knows eminent domain can only be used for a public purpose, the government acting for the greater public good, etc. But Trump, a private citizen, tries to get local government to act for Trump and Trump’s private interests, in violation of the Constitution, and for what? A limo parking space for his high dollar customers. This is a conservative????!!!
As a conservative, I need nothing other than his lack of devotion to the Constitution and core conservative principles as a basis for trashing him, and the trashing will continue, by the grace of God, until absolutely everyone in my circle of influence understands how bad it would be for the conservative movement to follow Trump’s false flag into oblivion.
What’s yours? Trump is for a Canadian-style healthcare system. You want to defend that?
Trump has proved that the Soros puppet is weak and seriously vulnerable on all fronts .
Trump has broadcasted on main street Obama media that Barry is a creepy anti American thug who has is destroying America's greatness
These clowns want to astroturf away just like Axelrod and Pfoulle to stop the damage to this mean petty Soro thug.
Why ????
did you read? My point was that he gave sooo much $ to Dems, if that’s a great attribute of a candidate for prez, good luck.
Your agenda is shut up and stop Trump from destroying this vile Soro puppet .
Stop avoiding the question .
Why are you trying to AID Barry and company with this
ASTROTURF !
I pay for my own, pal, get lost.
Baloney. I’m working tirelessly to expose Trump as the false flag operation he is simply because I don’t want him to succeed at destroying our historic opportunity of nominating a good, genuine conservative for 2012.
BTW, I dare you to find my “blog.” I don’t have one. I just have my critical thinking still intact. That’s all one needs to oppose obvious anti-conservative Judas goats like Trump.
Yes I read your article, you say “First of all, Trump seems kind of cheap.” The fact is, he donated $100,000 to cancer and you’re calling him cheap.
You got that right. Other than Palin and Bachaman, Trump is the only one saying anything about Barry.
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