Posted on 04/16/2011 6:27:28 AM PDT by Davy Buck
This is a perplexing question, as it relates to the WBTS. In some ways, yes. In others, no. I, like many of you, recently (and for the 3rd or 4th time), watched Ken Burns' PBS documentary, The Civil War. Even though I have several criticisms of the Burns' film, I still find it a fascinating piece of work and very educational. I've always thoroughly enjoyed watching the film, despite its shortcomings. One of the more moving parts of this film comes near the end, as shown below. Pay close attention at about 30 seconds in and listen as historian David McCullough narrates the moving "reenactment" of Pickett's charge at the 50th anniversary reunion at Gettysburg. I believe one can detect the emotion in McCullough's voice as it sounds like he almost chokes up in recounting the emotional event. I don't think he's acting. I don't mind admitting that I too was moved with emotion in hearing McCullough recount the story . . .
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Well, at least you are consist in being wrong.
I dont think so...
From the Articles of Confederation (Agreed to by Congress November 15, 1777):
Article I. The Stile of this Confederacy shall be The United States of America.
Preamble of the US Constitution:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Lee doesn’t need to be excused or defended. His greatness continues to be an aspiration and an inspiration to those who read about him.
The others - because of their failure to grasp the greatness of Lee, will never understand what it really is to be an American.
What you say is 100% true. And I say that as a MA man for all of my 50 years. Slavery was our biggest mistake. The ACW was our second biggest mistake.
In the 1860’s Fedzilla stole the people’s property (slaves). Today, Fedzilla steals as much property (taxes) as it can. The only things that have changed are the object of the thieves and the people’s willingness to accept it.
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This may be the single most ignorant and ugly post ever on FR.
Thank you for complimenting me on the superlative nature of my post. It's always nice to be noticed out as a true standout.
I was commenting on the legality of federal action, not the morality of it. I am not pro slavery. However, you can bet the slaveowners viewed emancipation as theft.
‘’..just why we are so defensive and defiant’’< While living under The Stars and Stripes in the freest , greatest society in history. You Southerners are ‘’defiant’’, you’re stupid.
The regions are always going to be divided politically. I don't think it's hatred, just different strokes for different folks, city mice and country mice. One "end" of the country is always going to vote differently from the other, and the main axis or rift or polarity doesn't shift easily.
But over similar issues? People with an axe to grind love to say things like that. If you're into the division enough, everything will look connected and similar, like it's all the same fight generation after generation.
But when Mississippians and Alabamans slam Clevelanders and Detroiters for not being industrious and enterprising and capitalistic and ambitious and devoted to education and technology enough, it's pretty clear that some important things have changed over the years.
Academics (and others) further accuse the Confederate heritage folks of dividing and pitting certain views against others all the while claiming their own "neutrality" and then at the same time declaring "victory" in the narrative war. How does one claim "victory" while at the same time denying there's any real divide and claiming "neutrality?" Am I missing something?
Undoubtedly, and not for the first time. When was this "narrative war"? What were the major battles? I must have slept through the war and the victory parades.
If you say so. Of course, I must bow to your superior northern intellect.
You insult the region of the country that represents the largest group of Americans opposed to the leftist takeover of this country. I think your statement is the very definition of stupid.
Why don’t people like you grow up?
Oh, so it’s just you Southerners alone who are oppossed to Obama huh? What, you took your own survey did you? Listen General Lee,the Civil War is over and you lost. You’re opposed to a ‘’leftist’’ take over of what? The country who’s flag you hate? The nation all of you Johnny Reb wannabes want to secede from? Instead of fighting a lost war why the hell don’t you join with the rest of loyal Americans and stop fighting a war that ended 150 years ago and lets start figuring out how to get rid of this of this Marxist a-hole!
I never said that Southerners alone oppossed Obama. I merely recognized the South as the most conservative part of the country, which most (left or right). would agree with. Also, who said any of us hated the US flag or this country. The truth is that Southerners make up the largest (on a per capita basis) numbers of those serving in the military. I guess all those guys are Johnny Reb wannabees as well.
The thing you miss is that Southerners are proud of their ancestors, whether they fought in Battle of the Bulge, Vietnam, or Bull Run, it makes no difference.
Flyover country in all - the South, Midwest, and Inner-mountain West represent hope for the future of this country. I refuse to denigrarte any of those regions. I’ll save that for the scum on left and east coast.
She could put so much power in that word that you wanted to hide under the bed!
We weren't allowed to say "breast" or "thigh" when we asked for another piece of fried chicken because ladies and gentlemen didn't use that kind of language at the table, but Gran could say carpetbagger any time she felt the need! After she read the paper every day she said it a lot! She would be scorching ears everywhere North of here if she was alive today!
The Klan idea got corrupted but it was the only defense the Southern civilian population had during reconstruction.
We treated Japan and Germany far better after WW2 than the South recieved..
WBTS.
Windows Based Terminal Services?
A radio station?
Oh. War Between the States.
Nope. That one has not reconciled.
I am from a section of the Appalachians that seceded from the Confederacy before the war started. They formed a nation called Mayland. They didn’t support slavery (the people were too poor to have ever owned any).
The South pretty much left Mayland alone, but the North was savage to the residents.
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