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Would Muslims Surrender Mecca? Should Catholics Give Up The Vatican?
Zionism and Aliya (blog) ^ | 18 March 2010 | Caitlyn Martin

Posted on 03/18/2010 12:01:27 PM PDT by anotherview

Would Muslims surrender Mecca? Should Catholics give up the Vatican? These may seem like ridiculous questions. The answer to both by any sane person would be "of course not." Why on earth would the answer to "Would Jews ever surrender Jerusalem?" be any different? The answer is simple. It shouldn't.

With the exception of a seven year period in the sixth century when the Persians restored Jewish sovereignty, the Jewish people were denied a homeland from 70 C.E. until 1948. During that time the Jewish people suffered pogroms, expulsions, mass murder, persecution, and assorted other forms of denial of basic human rights. Throughout that time the Jewish people prayed for one thing consistently: "Next year in Jerusalem." It's part of the Passover seder, the ceremonial feast, which the world's Jewish population will celebrate in two weeks time.

Hatikvah, the Israeli national anthem, is a Zionist prayer in song, a prayer for a Jewish home in the land of Zion and Jerusalem. Jerusalem is stressed and is in the refrain, the only part of the anthem which is repeated. Here is a translation of the lyrics:

As long as in the heart, within,
A Jewish soul still yearns,
And onward, towards the ends of the east,
An eye still gazes toward Zion;

Our hope is not yet lost,
The hope of two thousand years,
To be a free people in our land,
The land of Zion and Jerusalem.
These words, taken from a poem and set to music in 1888, are the essence of Zionism. More, they are the essence of Jewish national and cultural identity.

In recent days some have said that Prime Minister Netanyahu, and indeed the nation of Israel as a whole, will eventually have to make a choice between concessions which amount to surrendering sovereignty over much of Jerusalem or the friendship between Israel and the United States. Actually, that is no choice at all. Jews simply will not surrender sovereignty over Jerusalem. Those, particularly in the United States, who argue that we should include Jews who have somehow become divorced from their traditions, culture, their very identity as Jews. If we have to say goodbye to those people and say goodbye to support from the White House then that is what we will do.

Notice that I have made this argument without even once referring to Jewish and Christian religious beliefs. Of course it is religion which makes Jerusalem holy to Jews, just as Mecca is holy to Muslims and the Vatican is holy to Catholics. These beliefs, which the majority of Americans happen to share, are also being challenged by the White House. That has never been a recipe for much political support.

During Israel's 1948-49 War of Independence my father fought to lift the siege of Jerusalem. To him a Jewish state and the city of Jerusalem was worth fighting for. I can't say my views are any different. Israel survived against what seemed like impossible odds without any American help then. If need be it will do so again.

Anyone who insists that Israel should offer sovereignty as a concession prior to any negotiations for peace, with nothing in return, is asking Israel to surrender. What is the point of a Jewish state if not to maintain Jewish identity and hold on to what is precious to the Jewish people? Anyone who demands such a thing is no friend of Israel or the Jewish people, even if they can claim to be Jewish by birth. Oh, and yes, that includes the Obama Administration and anyone within the administration who insists that Israel not build in Ramat Shlomo or anywhere else in our holy city and capital.


TOPICS: History; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: israel; jerusalem; mecca; obama; plugsbiden; ramatshlomo; waronterror
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Written by a liberal, secular American Jew of Israeli parentage. Somehow I don't think we conservatives could do better than this. Maybe there is hope for the American Jewish community after all.
1 posted on 03/18/2010 12:01:27 PM PDT by anotherview
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To: SJackson

A ping for your list


2 posted on 03/18/2010 12:02:01 PM PDT by anotherview (Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it - Adolf Hitler)
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To: anotherview

BTTT


3 posted on 03/18/2010 12:04:46 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: anotherview

The Muslim claims in regard to Jerusalem are dicey at best.


4 posted on 03/18/2010 12:07:21 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (this is a NO-BAMA zone)
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To: brooklyn dave

Yeah, but tell that to the liberal media and to the Obama administration.


5 posted on 03/18/2010 12:22:53 PM PDT by anotherview (Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it - Adolf Hitler)
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To: brooklyn dave

But, but Mohammed flew on his horse from there.

Never mind the the mosque was built after Mo was dead and everyone knows that.

And never mind Jerusalem is not mentioned one time in the koran.


6 posted on 03/18/2010 12:25:27 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Never mind that the Temple Mount was a neglected ruin, mosques included, until Haj-Amin al-Husseini became leader of the Arabs in British Palestine and raised money for their renovation. Before Jews started moving back to their homeland in numbers Muslims couldn’t care less about Jerusalem.

...and for his next act al-Husseini became best buddies with Hitler and moved to Berlin for the war.


7 posted on 03/18/2010 12:33:25 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know." -Klaus Schulze)
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To: Jewbacca

Yep, and do you know who the horse’s name was? Take a guess!


8 posted on 03/18/2010 12:42:48 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: anotherview

“..the Jewish people were denied a homeland from 70 C.E. until 1948”

“..the Jewish people were denied a homeland from 70 A.D. until 1948”

Fixed it.


10 posted on 03/18/2010 12:47:51 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: anotherview

Liberal Jews are hypocrites, they openly supported the Serbs giving up up Kosovo, their Jerusalem to the Albanians.


11 posted on 03/18/2010 12:49:19 PM PDT by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: Biggirl

Barry?

The fact that Barry Odingo would change his name to “Barack” tells anyone who cares to listen what Barry thinks about Israel.


12 posted on 03/18/2010 12:53:20 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

BINGO! You got it! Baraq!


13 posted on 03/18/2010 12:55:59 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Jewbacca
Barak?


14 posted on 03/18/2010 12:57:33 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Jewbacca
Barak?


15 posted on 03/18/2010 12:59:45 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Jewbacca
Barak?


17 posted on 03/18/2010 1:02:31 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Rennes Templar
“..the Jewish people were denied a homeland from 70 C.E. until 1948”

“..the Jewish people were denied a homeland from 70 A.D. until 1948”

Fixed it.

Not from a Jewish perspective, you didn't. C.E. is "Common Era" and doesn't exclude Christians. A.D. excludes Jews. Sorry, no sale.

18 posted on 03/18/2010 1:03:12 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know." -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview

Don’t tell me the Jews side with the humanists who created that C.E. bunk.


19 posted on 03/18/2010 1:07:06 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: anotherview

Mark Twain described Tel Aviv as “a pile of sand about 25 feet high”. Then the Jews came along and started growing oranges the size of basketballs and the Arabs cried they stole their land. Even as early as 1899, the Jewish population of Jerusalem was 20,000.


20 posted on 03/18/2010 1:07:10 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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