Posted on 03/18/2010 12:01:27 PM PDT by anotherview
So, then Jews did NOT start a war and steal land from Palestinians? Is that the latest propganda?
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Would Muslims surrender Mecca? Should Catholics give up the Vatican? These may seem like ridiculous questions
Forget Mecca Caitlyn. Rome, including the Vatican, and much of southern Italy, as well as southern France and Spain are part of the Ummah, the proper question is the timing of their return. Probably parts of Paris, London too, along with all of Dearborn.
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Hamas Sermon in Gaza on Al-Aqsa TV: Rome Will Be Conquered by Islam
And remember when Columbus reached the new world, he was greeted by Muslims. The first European to traverse the continental US east to west was a Muslim (this may be partially true). The world belongs to Islam, it's not a question of if the infidel will "give up", rather when.
Thanks, note the link in 42
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Amen!
Though I am a Christian of Irish and Native-American Descent I wholeheartedly agree with every word! One does not have to be Jewish to recognize that Jerusalem is the very heart and soul of Jewish Religion, Culture, and history.
Not to mention that The Jewish Bible mentions Jerusalem thousands of times, while the Koran and Hadiths bare give it a passing glance if at all.
19th Century photos of the Dome of the Rock show it neglected, in a state of disrepair, and overgrown with weeds.
The current claim of Jerusalem being the “Third Holiest City in Islam” is about 60 years old...about the same age as the State of ISRAEL!
Best comment. The force is strong with you Jewbacca.
How impolite and vicious of you.
Putting different letters before or after the number of years since the birth of Christ, and pretending it doesn't signify the time before and after the birth of Christ is pretty silly in my view.
My sworn enemies, Communists and Fascists use CE and BCE as a tool of their trade. It's one of the things I use as a marker to identify them. You may not be my enemy, but you'll take friendly fire for wearing the mark of evil.
Nothing I said was impolite or vicious if you know history.
The Julian Calendar was an invention of pagan Rome, specifically, by Julius Ceasar.
It had zero to do with the person whom Christian deem the Messiah. Indeed, it predated Yeshua by 50 years or so.
Read the last sentence again.
The Gregorian Calendar (the one that is secularly used) was grafted onto to this pagan branch, retaining the names of pagan “gods” and Roman ceasars who would be “gods” as the months.
A perfectly good calendar has existed since G-d named the years and months on Mt. Sinai — the Hebrew Calendar.
Indeed, this actual Biblical calendar remains in use by the Christian Orthodox Church and by any number of governments not founded (however remotely) by pagan Rome.
If you want to celebrate Jupiter (Janis), Mars (March)and the rest of pagan “gods”, have at it.
I tolerate the paganism because the world has decided to use this old pagan calendar (which was a solar calendar) as a compromise, since it has been tinkered with by astronomers long enough to be accurate to make trains, planes, and spaceships fly correctly.
Pretending it has anything other than pagan roots, however, is absurd.
“If I forget thee oh Jerusalem
May my right hand forget it's cunning
If I do not remember thee
let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth
If I do not hold YOU above my chief joy.”
I don't understand why Sicily should not give back the land that it stole from Islam in 1130.
Etc, etc.
What is clear is that you “don't understand”.
Just how far back should be go to enforce the inane ‘rule’ you are attempting to establish that losers don't lose and winners don't win?
What would happen if Mecca had a natural disaster like a 9.0 earthquake?
But when you talk about the number of years since the birth of Jesus Christ, and you pretend that it's it's not the number of Years since the birth of Jesus Christ by placing CE or BCE after it, then you're assisting Communists and Fascists in their quest to destroy the civilization that Christ's followers have built.
Facts are not pretending or frothing.
Because of the accuracy of the star-worshiping Romans, they made a nice solar calendar.
I am happy use the Gregorian Calendar as a secular calendar, but accepting the pagan beliefs inherant in the calendar have long been a source of discontent in Judaism and most of Christianity until the last century or so, until train time tables (and the need for a uniform calendar) have made acceptance of it practical.
I get the feeling that you take a pride in feeling superior to others, and that feeling is stroked when you use phrases like “star worshiping” and “pagan beliefs.” Such things give me no tingle up my leg. Here’s a phrase.... blow it out yer a**! And please, stop voting like women when the time comes.
““star worshiping” and “pagan beliefs”
That’s what the Romans worshipped.
Jupter, Mars, Venus. They made them into “gods.”
It’s really not controversial.
I love the smell of anger in the morning. It smells like.....VICTORY! :-)
I am not angry at you, I find your “logic” to be ill.
That you cannot defend this ‘principle’ you have about “stolen land” speaks volumes as to how ill thought out and unsupportable your position is.
Do you think America should give back the lands it “stole” from Mexico? How is the principle any different?
Your unwillingness to engage in the argument makes it quite apparent that you have nothing constructive to say in your own defense, so you ludicrously declare “victory”.
Laughably inept.
I don’t have to “defend” my opinions to you or anyone else, got it? Principle? Who called it a “principle”? Not I.
However, the fact remains:
Jews started a war in 1948, ( with the help of the good ol’ U.S. of A., I might add ) and stole land from the Palestinians then called it their “country” named “Israel”.
Let’s see YOU defend THAT! Well, I know that you can’t defend fact but let’s see you try to justify it. :-)
Mexico? Who in the world said anything about Mexico? Not I.
Laughabley inept? Name calling? Tsk, tsk tsk.
It’s quite obvious that you have lost control of your emotions. Calm down. It’s just a useless discussion on an internet forum, for goodness’ sake. :-)
You cannot be consistent in the application of your ‘rule’, showing that it is not well thought out or defensible.
My position is based upon the principle that “winners win” and “losers lose”.
According the the idea that land can be “stolen” in war, then why do you think that America should not give back the land it “stole” from Mexico?
If your position is not based upon any deeper principle, then perhaps it is based upon an irrational hatred of Jews.
Better try to control those irrational emotions there champ.
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