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BATFE Believes M4 Airsoft Guns Can Be Converted To Bullet Firing Full Automatic Rifles
secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com ^ | 02/26/10 | Sasparilla

Posted on 02/26/2010 5:53:38 AM PST by Sasparilla

United States Customs seized 30 M4 look alike Airsoft rifles, pictured left, in Tacoma. The Feds claim they can be easily be converted to actually shoot full automatic with live ammunition. BATFE says that parts could be switched out quickly to allow them to fire live ammunition. This is sure to cause huge differences of opinion over whether the Airsoft gun can actually be easily converted to actually fire 5.56mm ammunition on full automatic.

These toy rifles look like M4’s. They do not have the bright orange tips to show they are toys. BATFE Agents say that they feel like and weigh approximately the same as a real M4. They apparently have been available for sale in the USA under the brand name TTI M4 CQBR (WE Tech) Gas Blow Back Airsoft Rifle.

The seized toy guns were labeled as “Toys and Parts” and came from a Taiwan manufacturer. They were designed to shoot Airsoft pellets and had no serial numbers. Of course, toys normally don’t have them. They do look very realistic and they accept detachable Airsoft M4 lookalike magazines, and the user can load the toy with Airsoft pellets.

The government claims that the shipment arrived without the proper shipping documents. They entered the country in October, and there has been an ongoing investigation.

Here’s the sales ad product description for the Toy Rifle that sells for about $400.00 in the USA.

"The WE M4 CQBR Gas Blowback Airsoft Rifle from WE TTI is the...

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KEYWORDS: airsoft; bang; banglist; guncontrol; napl
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To: Delta 21

I’m sure that whomever I stole it from is very flattered.


41 posted on 02/26/2010 10:57:22 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Jim Robinson is the onle person that sweets proper nut sweet. leave the man alone."--Sarah-bot)
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To: Slings and Arrows

TOTally cool graphic, Slings! And I agree.


42 posted on 02/26/2010 11:17:01 AM PST by TheOldLady (We'll remember in November.)
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To: derekr44

In other news today, BAFTA researchers have discovered that is it possible to embed weapons in violin cases. BAFTA is in the process of alerting all concert halls and opera houses and it is suggested that they screen all performance artists and violinists for previous felonies and substance abuse. It is not known what the impact will be to music schools and classes, as upcoming students will potentially be evaluated for religious beliefs, military indoctrination and psychotherapy.

BAFTA officials have not commented on their decision regarding women’s purses and explosives.


43 posted on 02/26/2010 11:18:22 AM PST by derekr44
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To: Sasparilla

The designs don’t allow for cartridges. These people are completely stupid along with truly evil.


44 posted on 02/26/2010 11:19:29 AM PST by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: Sasparilla

You’ll put your eye out!!


45 posted on 02/26/2010 11:54:33 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Sasparilla

46 posted on 02/26/2010 12:08:54 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: wysiwyg
Oh wow... It's got a DIAS. No wonder the Feebies have their panties in a bunch. It ain't the Upper Reciever that has them bent, it's a fully functional select fire lower.

If the dimensions line up, pop the pins, slap on a 16" M4 upper, load a mag, and you are off to Happy Land.

47 posted on 02/26/2010 1:42:14 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: P8riot

I would PAY to see the video of an ATF agent shooting live 5.56mm ammo through a plastic toy gun! He/she won’t do it more then once!
I have heard that they have banned potato mortars...I guess automatic nail guns are next, then maybe automobile tires - they have the word auto in it and they sometimes go BANG, sounds like a gun shot, when they puncture...
Spiff


48 posted on 02/26/2010 1:46:31 PM PST by Spiff5
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To: Spiff5

Most of these airsoft guns aren’t just plastic. I have an MP5 that is pretty much all metal with plastic furniture. Ounce for ounce the same weight as a real MP5.


49 posted on 02/26/2010 1:48:33 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Sasparilla
So apart from changing practically EVERYTHING in this toy it still could not stand up the pressures & shock generated from a real .223 bullet being fired from it.

Those AFT jokers are reaallly brilliant on that claim!!

50 posted on 02/26/2010 2:08:50 PM PST by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: LegalAlien1949

I’ll show up as the official observer and post the results. Free!


51 posted on 02/26/2010 2:20:39 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: puppypusher

It sounds like the ATF has found a way to ban all firearms.”

That is probably what they are working towards.
Get the public to believe toys can be converted into guns and they have won half the battle.


52 posted on 02/26/2010 2:26:11 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Sorry, I do not view these as TOYS....especially at $400 each!

The difference between men and boys is the cost of their toys.

These are still toys, or training simulators at best. They are not weapons or arms.

53 posted on 02/26/2010 2:46:56 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: ZULU
ATF should be dissolved and those of its staff thought fit to be retained, incorporated into the FBI.

All three of them? All from the explosives branch most likely.

Actual enforcement of the alcohol tax and trade laws remained with Treasury when BATFE moved to Justice in 2003, pursuant to the Homeland Security Act.

54 posted on 02/26/2010 2:51:52 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: ZULU

I never knew this about Reagan. Thanks for sharing! As several posters have said, throw away the ATF, and roll the explosives unit into the FBI. Makes sense to me — too much sense for the government! LOL


55 posted on 02/26/2010 3:02:52 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: ExSoldier
That would maybe work if in fact full auto was a banned product but it's not. Anybody can possess a full auto so called machine gun if they possess the proper TAX STAMP for a paltry $200 from the BATFE.

Not one made since 1986. It was part of the Reagan era Fire Arm Owners Protection Act.

It's also part of 18 USC 922 section (o), which reads:

(o)
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any person to transfer or possess a machinegun.

(2) This subsection does not apply with respect to—
(A) a transfer to or by, or possession by or under the authority of, the United States or any department or agency thereof or a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or
(B) any lawful transfer or lawful possession of a machinegun that was lawfully possessed before the date this subsection takes effect.

The notes indicate that the date this subsection takes effect, referred to in subsec. (o)(2)(B), as May 19, 1986,

The FOPA was in general a Good Thing, it repealed many of the provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968, such as the ban on mail order ammunition, having to sign for all "handgun" ammunition, etc. and it (temporarily as it turned out) reigned in the BATF.

56 posted on 02/26/2010 3:06:40 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Spiff5
I guess automatic nail guns are next, then maybe automobile tires -

Not those. They are the favorite weapon of African "leftists".

Look up "necklacing".

57 posted on 02/26/2010 3:11:15 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: ZULU
ATF should be dissolved and those of its staff thought fit to be retained, incorporated into the FBI.

This was one of Reagan’s unaccomplished goals.

My suspicion is his idiot Vice-President was one of the culprits involved in derailing that idea.

The main problem was that the FBI didn't want them. Nor did any other federal "Law Enforcement" agency.

58 posted on 02/26/2010 3:13:56 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: DCBryan1
ATF should be dissolved and those of its staff thought fit to be retained, incorporated into the FBI. If I were President, I would fire each and every ATF special agent on day one

I'd go a little further: I would put all government agents on notice that all prior violations of people's civil rights would be prosecuted if they were unlawful at the time they were committed, regardless of whether the agents expected anyone to care. I would allow agents a deal: with certain exceptions, they could be moved to the bottom of the priority list for prosecution provided they signed and notarized agreements indicating that if they ever worked in any position where they would have discretionary authority over a private citizen, or over a government agent who did have such authority, they would wave any statute of limitations relative to their crimes. Much as I'd like to see most of the crooks in government rot in prison, just getting them out of government would be 99% better than leaving them in.

59 posted on 02/26/2010 3:38:55 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: El Gato
Not one made since 1986. It was part of the Reagan era Fire Arm Owners Protection Act.

Wasn't that also called McClure-Volkmer? Or something like that? Also I discovered a sorta sneaky way around the post 1986 production ban. Kinda. Sorta. I found some Class III H&K MP5's had been made originally in semi auto but later retrofitted with 1986 or before full auto SEARS to convert them to that status. 99% of the weapon is brand new but the only part actually subject to the control is that which creates the class III condition: The full auto SEAR. Perfectly legal as it happens. Doesn't matter to me. I still can't afford even that level of full auto fire. Less than $30K but still formidable to me.

60 posted on 02/26/2010 3:51:28 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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