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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: EnderWiggins; El Gato; All
Since there is no evidence with which to challenge it, it remains prima facie evidence,
self authenticated per the Federal Rules of Evidence and enforced by the Full Faith
and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.

BULLSH*T! In order for Obama's "birth certificate" to be accepted as a legal "fact" —
it MUST appear in Court. It NEVER has. It's only appeared on the Internet.

Read it again. In regards to prima facie, the Certification itself says it VERY CLEARLY:

“This copy serves as prima facia evidence

NOT

"This COPY OF A copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

1,761 posted on 02/27/2010 10:24:51 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Beckwith
That Parsifal?


1,762 posted on 02/27/2010 10:32:44 AM PST by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: mojitojoe

Exactly.


1,763 posted on 02/27/2010 10:33:35 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: mojitojoe

I think there’s basically 3 types of eligibility trolls:

1) Those that are indignant because they’re not natural born citizens.[This includes their friends, family etc....For whatever reason it’s too emotional for them. Their silicon chip gets switched to overload.]

2) Those that are mentally ill.

3) Those that are on the DOJ/acorn payroll

Parsy, the post parsing pusillanimous pus chancre falls into category 2.


1,764 posted on 02/27/2010 10:35:59 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: Seizethecarp; edge919

FYI marriage licenses are issued by the Hawaii Department of Health so they will have both them and marriage certificates on file.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/marriage/index.html


1,765 posted on 02/27/2010 10:41:47 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

That’s an excellent assessment.


1,766 posted on 02/27/2010 10:43:47 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Electric Graffiti; All

> I think there’s basically 3 types of eligibility trolls:

And they all show their allegiance not the Constitution,
but to the man who refuses to protect the Constitution.



1,767 posted on 02/27/2010 10:48:14 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
If you STILL can't wrap your brain around this, grab yourself a banana, climb out of that monkey suit and TRY AGAIN. We'll try to remain be patient ...

LOL

.

1,768 posted on 02/27/2010 10:54:27 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: mojitojoe

Has a single girlfriend ever emerged? Other than MO, has there ever been any female interest? Surely, some gal from high school or college would be bragging about it.


1,769 posted on 02/27/2010 11:07:47 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks
the Wiki international date format page that Kenya is one of the few countries in the world that was listed as regularly using BOTH formats.

You are correct. I remember seeing it, too. Possibly referenced on the long thread?

1,770 posted on 02/27/2010 11:11:19 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: mojitojoe; butterdezillion
Butter.... don’t give him any more info... PLEASE.

Don't anyone post to trolls any more.... PLEASE.

1,771 posted on 02/27/2010 11:16:57 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Electric Graffiti
In what way did Kenya in 1960 provide Obama's pregnant mother more opportunity to "pursue her hedonist globe-trotting lifestyle" than Hawaii? Wouldn't abortion better serve that purpose? (they were preformed in 1960, you know)

Another popular strategy for dealing with an inconvenient teenage pregnancy at the time was to send the girl away "to visit relatives". Afterwards the girl returns home, sans baby, to take up life where it left off and no one is the wiser.

1,772 posted on 02/27/2010 11:23:02 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: butterdezillion

Ad-Aware doesn’t like FR.

Every time your puter freezes or does something weird, post it so we know. The more this funny stuff is out there the more it shows what they’re up to.

Just sending out a big shout out to the man in the black suit, Eligibility Ed!


1,773 posted on 02/27/2010 11:35:51 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Elle Bee; parsifal; edge919; mlo; Non-Sequitur; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; El Sordo; ...

If you STILL can't wrap your brain around this, grab yourself a banana, climb out of that monkey suit and TRY AGAIN. We'll try to remain patient ...

The scarcity of the monkey-suit-wearing Eligibility trolls on THIS thread — when confronted with the irrefutable FACTS — is exceeded ONLY by the scarcity of an actual Obama “birth certificate” sighting in a Court of Law.

Much like Sasquatch, the existence of Obama’s “birth certificate” is a dubious CONSPIRACY THEORY at best!


Yes, trolls, YOU are the real CONSPIRACY THEORISTS!


1,774 posted on 02/27/2010 11:38:44 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA......that Sasquatch picture is just begging for Ogabe’s Hawaiin Colb to be ‘shopped’ onto his trailing hairy hand.


1,775 posted on 02/27/2010 11:44:45 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: bgill

I agree. They are fishing for information, they want us to present our case so they can be one step ahead. I won’t argue facts with them nor will I give them any info anymore. I do like to push their buttons once in a while though. But they will not get any info or debate from me. That should be saved for the ones that will use it to make sure he is gone in 2012 if not sooner.


1,776 posted on 02/27/2010 11:49:23 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bgill
Never. Not one. You ask why? Because there were NONE. Only pictures of him with very effeminate boys.
1,777 posted on 02/27/2010 11:51:05 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Beckwith
Close. But this is closer:
1,778 posted on 02/27/2010 12:33:21 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Fred Nerks; Seizethecarp

“Administrators and doctors there told WND sources that in 2004 a high-level team of Kenya’s National Security Intelligence Service came to the hospital and seized all files containing birth certificate documents from the years 1960 through 1963.”

Same thing happened in Indonesia:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/obamas-mop-up-m.html


1,779 posted on 02/27/2010 12:38:38 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Exmil_UK

Which all boils down to the same thing. If any case against Obama gets past the “Git this Dreck outta my court room!” phase, Obama will present a COLB, probably a certified one. Maybe presented by an Hawaiian state official. That will be the end of the story.

I CAN STILL SEE NO BASIS FOR INTRODUCING THE ALLEGED PHONY INTERNET COPY INTO THE COURT AS EVIDENCE. (WINK....WINK....)

parsy, who is winking and kicking your leg under the table....


1,780 posted on 02/27/2010 12:39:47 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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