Posted on 12/21/2009 12:08:37 PM PST by annieup
FIRST OF ALL THE WITNESSES ARE NOT A CULT. THAT OPINION WAS FORMED BY SOMEONE THAT OBVIOUSLY FEELS THREATNED BY THE TRUTH.IT AMAZES ME THAT WHENEVER A WITNESS DOES SOMETHING WRONG IT MAKES THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWS! IF A BABTIST OR PROTESTANT DOES SOMETHING WRONG IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR RELIGION. AND THIS BIG COVER UP GARBAGE IS A JOKE. ADMITTEDLY THEY ARE NOT PERFECT NOR CLAIM TO BE. MATT 24:9 SAYS THAT WE WOULD BE OBJECTS OF HATRED ON ACCOUNT OF HIS NAME. WHAT OTHER RELIGION IS HATED ON ACCOUNT OF HIS NAME? ONLY 1 THAT I CAN THINK OF THE WITNESSES PROUDLY GLORIFY JEHOVAHS NAME. ALSO WE ARE NOT PROGRAMMED. WE HAVE FREE WILL,GOD DOES NOT WANT ROBOTS, THAT IS WHY HE GAVE ADAM AND EVE FREE WILL. AND WE DO BELIEVE IN JESUS. HE IS GODS SON AND HE DID GIVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS. I ALSO GET A KICK OUT OF THOSE WHO TELL US WHAT WE BELIEVE, ESPECIALLY IF IT ISN'T TRUE. PEOPLE JUST MAKE UP WHAT THEY WANT ABOUT THE WITNESSES AND THE NAIVE ONES BELIEVE IT. IF IT IS TRUE THEN LOOK INTO WHY WE BELIEVE WHAT WE DO. DONT JUST ASSUME TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT THEY TEACH OR BELLIEVE BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION. TALK ABOUT HAVING A MIND OF YOUR OWN!!
Well I may be “really cool”, however I will not die for lack of a simple blood transfusion. I also will not feel bad about myself for not warning people who come knocking at my door trying to spread that whacko cult around that they are misguided. My sister would be alive today were it not for jehovahs witnesses, so I will be really cool and in her memory I will tell you that you are an idiot if you believe in the JW crap.
John 1:1-3 - The King James Bible says that the word was God. However other translations render the verse as “a god” or “divine.” A godlike spirit person.
Come on out and say it, the only current ‘translation’ is the New World Translation and that has been refuted over and over again. You will not find a ‘godlike spirit person’ ANYWHERE in the Greek.
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See my # 479 for all the versions ...
They all say The Word WAS GOD...
I have to go to bed. I'm certain we'll pick this up tomorrow. Until then, Goodnight! :-)
totally agree no argument here!!
i doubt your interested in the religious aspect of this message but witnesses are encouraged to watch their association.i mean i would not want to bring an ax murderer in the hall and endanger the lives of everyone. and ya it does matter who you hang with, it i love jah and you love satan not such a good match huh? i mean ive already read that we allow child molesters in the hall then cover it up.but if they dissfellowship that person then you tell everyone who will listen how terrible they are for kicken em out. so make up my mind which one is it? or is this just another slam like all your other posts?
first i dont believe that she told u that you would be her slave, witness dont believe to be better or above anyone. and sometimes people move and or change their minds (i did) after hiding behind my door for years i prayed for help to find the truth and a couple of witnesses came to my door. so they check back every few months in the hopes of any changes. if its that annoying to u then simply put a note on your door. i dont think it bothers as many as they say it does or they would put a note on the door.
What in the WORLD are you ranting about?! They told Kathy that she could NOT go shopping with me because I attended an Assemblies of God. Your “church” is guilty of controlling their flock. Your post does not address that absolute control.
I still have family members in the faith and what with the current state of domestic terrorists aiming for un-armed groups to attack the Jehovas Witnesses are and can be considered a prime target at any convention site.
Ever seen or heard of how a possum attacks in a coop full of chickens? I had such a thing happen years ago, all of the chickens had a neat little bite taken out of the top of their heads. Witnesses advocate against being armed and are figuratively the defenseless chickens in a coop.
Islam is fundamentally against anything Christian and especially anything Zionist and the Watchtower society was originally founded by the Zionists, arch and sworn enemy of Islam. And by no small feat of imagination these terrorists go into a blood rage against iconic symbols, I would prefer no harm against Witnesses and would rather they not be brought into a very publicly viewed forum.
Right now there is a very real threat of domestic terrorism by Muslims, they are earnestly seeking a public prime target with a maximum effect of fear, almost everything in America is guarded and with security, and Islamic operatives are slowly learning to use the internet to search for these targets, thus I would rather not see a forum here at FR discussing the problems of this group.
if you really know the scriptures then u would know that there is a resurection and your sister would at least have that hope. if u truly love your sister then you would hold that hope for her, that she will be in the resurection and that you would be there to welcome her back. your so warped and wrapped up in your own hatred that the witnesses are just someone else to blame. please be there for your sis when she comes back and set your foolish pride aside..
your one of those who thinks that the world revolves around you and that you can go to the kingdom hall with a black and mild and a 40 and everyone is supposed to not say nothin, cuz like u said your cool.. what a joke you are. i think u need to go to that one church that throws themselves all over the place. maybe you”ll get hit in the head and knock some sense into ya! you dont care what noone thinks on this site u just try to hit a nerve here or there and hope u get lucky.
Not at all.
The crux of my comment is that, absent particular training/education in Biblical hermeneutics (the art and science of biblical interpretation)many passages of scripture require a certain background - some more than others - to create or complete the context that brings alive the meaning and scope of those passages. Basically, there are rules to follow, and those rules ensure and allow for a better (more accurate and trustworthy) interpretation.
In general, the exegesis and eisegesis applied to the ‘I AM’ passages in the NT by the JWs is among the worst, and least scholarly I have come across (among major para-Christian sects) and therefore yields untrustworthy, inconsistent results.
I am not the only person in the world thoroughly trained and educated in these disciplines and thereby able to interpret, nor does my training and knowledge make me at all a better person or a better Christian than you or anyone else...
(Actually there are days when the mental swirls that result from reading Barth, Bultmann, Kierkegaard, and the others causes more headaches and disclarity than they resolve...)
It simply gives me a generally better-equipped starting point than most from which to sort out good information and good interpretations from bad or inadequate.
It is very likely that you know a great deal about something else - like trigonometry or calculus, or botany, or Chinese literature...or some such - than I know. And in that field you could offer correction.
For good guidance in Biblical studies, I would recommend a companion book like the late Dr. Walter Martin’s “Kingdom of the Cults”, which addresses Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, and other lesser known sects and cults.
A.A.C.
the earth is still moving...or is it just me?
Apparently you did not read my post. You do not seem to understand so I will put it this way:
MY SISTER IS D E A D BECAUSE OF THE IDIOT CULT OF THE JOHOVAHS WITNESSES WHO PICKED SOME OBSCURE REFERENCE IN THE BIBLE ABOUT BLOOD. D E A D.. YOU UNDERSTAND DEAD? IDIOTS LIKE YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE M U R D E R OF MY SISTER. SO GO AWAY WITH YOUR STUPIDITY. IN HONOR OF BEING BOTHERED BY YOU, I WILL MAKE AN EXTRA SPECIAL EFFORT TO TALK SOME SENSE INTO THE NEXT JW DIMWITS WHO MAKE THE MISTAKE OF BANGING ON MY DOOR.
In fact maybe it is a good thing that you made that first post because now that I have read some of this thread and been reminded of the danger of cults and of the JWs, I am going to do something to try and stop some innocent people from being taken in.
The country where I now live in Eastern Europe banned one sect from the country, I am going to contact the government people that I know here and explain the dangers of the JWs to them and see if they can also be banned. They are here wandering around bothering people and I will do whatever I can to get them stopped. I owe it to my sister.
And the reign of Jesus on this earth starting in the early 20th century? Dontcha think more people would've seen His second coming, or did He just sneak into town on a back road?
I know of no other religion that puts themselves out there, spreading the word of God, KNOWING they will receive the ridicule of man.
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HUH??? Thousands of Christian missionaries and ministers (and even everyday believers) put themselves up not only for ridicule but put their very lives on the line EVERY DAY to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
JW’s spread a “false Word” and a “false gospel”, Christ is not preached, their “program” is.
Except that I do not agree with the JH at all. No yeah! there at all. That listing shows why the JH are not readily accepted, most centrally, the refusal to acknowledge the Trinity and therefore the divinty of Christ.
I understand. Terrorists are aptly named, they cause terror. But if we don’t discuss it, maybe they won’t find them. I really do understand what you’re saying but do you really want what FR discusses controlled by fear of a terrorist?
You’re a nut. I have never been in a Kingdom Hall. I was in J.C. Penney’s with Kathy. She was told not to do it again or she’d be disfellowedshipped. Jehovah’s Witness is a cult. The people are controlled.
Could you get all the MORMON whiners to realize that?
JH = JW, not sure why that got typed.
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