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Posted on 12/21/2009 12:08:37 PM PST by annieup

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To: 21twelve; Travis McGee; DoughtyOne

dang...glad to see someone else noticed it...how the sam hill can u post that many replies in mere seconds....i need to learn..lol


421 posted on 12/22/2009 4:11:51 PM PST by wardaddy (Say Merry Christmas or I'll kill you..slow....I am weary of the onslaught on Christ in America)
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To: annieup

Annie, don’t let them upset you. I know of no other religion that puts themselves out there, spreading the word of God, KNOWING they will receive the ridicule of man.

You are spreading the word, that’s all that matters.


422 posted on 12/22/2009 4:14:49 PM PST by NoGrayZone (SARAH PALIN IS MY CUP OF TEA!)
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To: NoGrayZone
Annie, don’t let them upset you. I know of no other religion that puts themselves out there, spreading the word of God, KNOWING they will receive the ridicule of man. You are spreading the word, that’s all that matters.

Hey these guys -- the ones Jesus talked about below -- were also traversing afar to spread "God's Word" -- you gonna give them a "shoutout" thru your time machine on their behalf as well?

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. (Matt. 23:15)

423 posted on 12/22/2009 4:22:33 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: wardaddy

Not that I could do it without some testing, but I suspect it might involve a macro that incorporated a page back, readdressing, text insert, then initiate the post protocol and repeat.

I’m not sure how long you have to wait before you back up, but I suspect it’s only a moment, since the posting is probably handed off.

While it looks like she did this very quickly, she would have to set up the mass posting in advance, then activate the process.

I might be able to come up with something like this, but that is contingent on my assumptions be correct too.


424 posted on 12/22/2009 4:25:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (H.C. Bill, saves more in second decade, despite taxation w/o benefits for first 4 years. Suuurre...)
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To: Colofornian

Ummmm, no one said anything about “converts”. The only thing stated was spreading the word of God.

Mt 10:32 “Everyone, then, that confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my Father who is in the heavens.”....Just like Jesus went door to door (well, town to town)witnessing, they believe they are following in His footsteps.


425 posted on 12/22/2009 4:26:49 PM PST by NoGrayZone (SARAH PALIN IS MY CUP OF TEA!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You had no clue what I was talking about until I spelled it out.


426 posted on 12/22/2009 4:28:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
""Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. (Matt. 23:15)"

You forgot the rest of it.... Mt 23:15-22. I'm sure you can look it up for yourself. Not that you were trying to mislead anyone.

427 posted on 12/22/2009 4:39:46 PM PST by NoGrayZone (SARAH PALIN IS MY CUP OF TEA!)
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To: NoGrayZone
Ummmm, no one said anything about “converts”. The only thing stated was spreading the word of God.

So the JWs don't get their own converts from spreading their interpretation of the Word? (Try again)

Mt 10:32 “Everyone, then, that confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my Father who is in the heavens."

Look...that applies to acknowledging the true Jesus -- not imposters. Example...do you think Mt. 10:32 applies to those Jesus mentioned in Matt 24:23-24? ...if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear...

Bottom line: The JWs' Jesus Christ is an angel-man-semi-god [JWs confess Jesus is a "god" (small "g") but is not Jehovah God.]But then when you ask them if they believe in two gods, they vehemently deny that. Jesus to them is some angel-man-semi-god -- and THAT is NOT the Jesus of the bible.

And the New Testament says there's more than one "Jesus": But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached... (2 Cor. 11:3-4)

”....Just like Jesus went door to door (well, town to town)witnessing, they believe they are following in His footsteps.

Well, the Pharisees & teachers of the law likewise believed they were following in Jehovah's footsteps: 33They answered him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?"...37I know you are Abraham's descendants. Yet you are ready to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what you have heard from your father." 39"Abraham is our father," they answered. "If you were Abraham's children," said Jesus, "then you would do the things Abraham did. 40As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41You are doing the things your own father does." "We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is God himself." 42Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. (John 8:33, 37-44)

428 posted on 12/22/2009 4:41:59 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: annieup

Your CAPS LOCK KEY is stuck.


429 posted on 12/22/2009 4:42:06 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

The Jehovah’s Witness cult has more than it’s share of beliefs that are:

heretical
cultic
bizarre
controlling

for instance....

* JWs want you to leave your present religion (Awake 11/8/73 p. 27-28)
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* The Watchtower must be viewed as being more authoritative than the Bible (1983 Yearbook p. 21)
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* You can’t understand the Bible without the Watchtower (Watchtower 12/1/81 p. 27)
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* Reading the Bible without the Watchtower will lead you to believe in what Christendom’s clergy teaches. (Watchtower 8/15/81 p. 28-29)
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* Christianity (Protestant & Catholic) is the Devil’s religion (Riches 1936 p. 285)
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* Those who don’t worship like JW’s are honoring Satan (Reasoning from the Scriptures 1989 p. 49-53)
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* Interfaith movements are forbidden (Awake 8/22/97 p. 27)
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* You must recognize God as your Father and the Watchtower as your Mother (Watchtower 5/1/57 p. 274)
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* If the Watchtower is wrong, you must submit anyway and wait for God to correct it (Watchtower 5/1/57 p. 284)
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* There is no room to disagree with Watchtower doctrine; you WILL accept it (Watchtower 2/1/52 p. 79-83)

* As defined by the Watchtower, a lie is, “saying something false to a person who is entitled to know”. JW’s learn that, “it is proper to hide the truth from God’s enemies.” (Insight on Scriptures Vol. 1 1988 p. 244. Watchtower 6/1/60 p. 351-352)

* JWís are not allowed to question their organization. The Watchtower teaches that it is dangerous to make up your own mind about what to believe. (Watchtower 1/15/83 p. 22, 27)

* Listed among serious moral offenses (murder, adultery, etc.) are trivial “sins” that JWís can be disfellowshipped, and consequently shunned, for committing: Celebrating holidays, Interfaith activities, Working for a religious organization, Owning religious pictures or images, Accepting blood transfusions, Gambling, Non-neutral activities, and Smoking tobacco. (Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock 1977 p. 57-59)

It is no wonder there was a book published years ago, 30 Years a Watchtower Slave. It is still in print!

http://www.amazon.com/Years-Watchtower-Slave-Confessions-Converted/dp/0801063841

If you are a Jehovah’s Witness, you are in a cult. FLEE.


430 posted on 12/22/2009 4:43:36 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: FreedomOfExpression
Where does the Bible explicitly or implicitly say that Jesus is God?
 
 
Mat 26:63  But Jesus remained silent. The high priest said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, [fn] the Son of God."
Mat 26:64  "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."
Mat 26:65  Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy.
Mat 26:66  What do you think?" "He is worthy of death," they answered.

431 posted on 12/22/2009 4:44:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annieup

http://www.towerwatch.com/help_for_ex-witnesses/help_for_ex-witnesses.htm


432 posted on 12/22/2009 4:45:02 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: wardaddy; annieup
How the heck can you as one poster make all these replies just 1-3 seconds apart in posting sequence? Explain that to us Annie. I’ve never seen that before here in 10 years. You can’t type that quick and hit post and the software and portal connection all clear that quick.

Uhhh...Mark 5:10, perhaps??? "My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many."

433 posted on 12/22/2009 4:45:19 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: NoGrayZone

Later on; when he says, “Hey Pops! Toss me the car keys!” you’ll have a different take on it.


434 posted on 12/22/2009 4:48:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annieup
we do not believe that jesus and god are the same person.

Bingo!

We have a winner!

435 posted on 12/22/2009 4:49:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annieup
no the witnesses do not try to control anyone.

And you guys can go online and read anti JW stuff and not get in trouble?

Cool!

436 posted on 12/22/2009 4:50:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annieup
the witnesses never claimed to be infallable. at least they humbly admit any errors they have made.

Since they've admitted to all the times they made false prophecies concerning Jesus' return; doesn't that tend to make a person just a BIT suspicious as to their veracity?

437 posted on 12/22/2009 4:52:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annieup

to readers of this thread who wonder what Jehovah’s Witnesses believe...

JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES BELIEVE & TEACH

THAT Jesus Christ (who is Michael the Archangel in their doctrine ) (WT 2/1/91 p.17) is mediator for only a small, elite, group within their ranks called the “anointed remnant”. Others must come to this group who control the organization and earn their salvation by absolute obedience to it. (WT 04/01/79).

THAT all religions except their’s are of Satan, and your Pastor or Priest is under the Devil’s control. (Truth..E. Life p. 132-137)

THAT the Watchtower Society is the only source of truth on earth today, and all churches teach error and will be destroyed at Armageddon. (WT 04/01/88 p.24; Truth.. p.120,121).

THAT the cross is a pagan symbol of sex worship, and that all buildings or persons displaying the cross are likewise pagan. Jehovah’s Witnesses deny that Jesus died on the cross. However, the Watchtower Magazine now admits they are not certain about the cross, but will continue to deny it anyway. (WT 8/15/87 p.29 Aid.. p.1608,9).

THAT no one goes to heaven but 144,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses, and your soul will be destroyed if you refuse to join their organization. (WT 12/15/68 p.765-766; Truth...p.75-80).

THAT the Christ child was only an “IT”, not a “HE”. See the New World Translation, Luke 2:16,17. *

THAT Jesus was not the Christ (or Messiah) until age 30, even though their own bible says in Luke 2:11, “because there was born to you today a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.” (Things in Which it is Impossible for God to Lie p. 211)

THAT after Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gasses and it disappeared forever. (WT 09/01/53 p. 518; Time...Hand p. 129).

THAT Jesus rose invisibly in three days, so Jehovah had to “materialize” a fake body for him complete with fake nail prints so His disciples would believe it was really Jesus risen. (Make Sure..(52 ed.) p. 314)

THAT Armageddon and Christ’s second coming were foretold to happen in 1874, 1914, 1925 and 1975 by this “nonprophet”organization. (WT10/1/1890p.1243;1/1892p.1354; Life Everl. (66 ed. p.29)

THAT when Christ failed to show up in 1914 The Society claimed in later years that He had come — invisibly — of course, and all Jehovah’s Witnesses believe this today. (Light (30 ed). p. 194; Paradise on Earth..p.148)

THAT Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob etc. were to be back on earth as perfect humans in 1925. The Society built a palatial home for them BUT when the patriarchs failed to show up, the President of the Society moved in. (Millions..(20 ed) p. 89-90; WT 03/15/37 p. 86).

THAT their light gets “brighter and brighter”, allowing for the many changes and “about faces” on their doctrines. Yesterday’s error is today’s “truth”. Often the “light” bounces back and forth from old to new views and back again! Does real light return to darkness? (1 example Sodom: WT 06/01/52 p. 336; 08/01/65 p. 479; Rev..Climax..(88 ed) p. 273).

THAT the Watchtower Society and its followers are all prophets of God today and the Governing Body is directed by angels from God. (WT 01/15/59 p. 40-41; WT 4/1/72 p.200.

THAT salvation for Society members consists of doing the good works of placing Watchtower books and magazines and winning converts. (WT 08/15/72; Make Sure (65 ed) p. 438-9).

THAT soon Jehovah God will become a GRANDFATHER and Jesus will be promoted to “EVERLASTING FATHER”! (WT 08/01/95 p. 13).

THAT Jehovah God is not omnipresent, but still Almighty. Think! How can this be?(Light II (30 ed) p. 184). “The true God is not omnipresent for he is spoken as of having a location: (Insight into the Scriptures ,Vol 1, pg 969 (1988 edition)

Pleiades - Jehovah’s Throne From 1881 until 1953 the Watchtower believed that Jehovah resided at the centre of the universe on the star Alcyone in the cluster known as Pleiades. And they knew this because the Great Pyramid in Egypt pointed this out.


438 posted on 12/22/2009 4:53:40 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: wardaddy
You can’t type that quick and hit post and the software and portal connection all clear that quick.

Sheesh!

Can't you just be happy that CL key seems to be broken?

439 posted on 12/22/2009 4:54:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
"Bottom line: The JWs' Jesus Christ is an angel-man-semi-god [JWs confess Jesus is a "god" (small "g") but is not Jehovah God.]But then when you ask them if they believe in two gods, they vehemently deny that. Jesus to them is some angel-man-semi-god -- and THAT is NOT the Jesus of the bible.

That is where you are wrong and are passing false witness. Shame on you.

Witnesses believe Jesus is the Son of God.

Mt 3:16-17....After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God's spirit coming upon him. Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said : "This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.

440 posted on 12/22/2009 4:55:09 PM PST by NoGrayZone (SARAH PALIN IS MY CUP OF TEA!)
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