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GOP Rep. Neugebauer: Obama has Never Produced a Birth Certificate
Politics USA ^ | 6/23/09 | Some libtard

Posted on 06/23/2009 8:12:34 PM PDT by pissant

Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-TX) was on a Texas radio station yesterday where here explained his support a Republican floated bill which would mandate that all presidential candidates file birth certificates with the Federal Election Commission. When asked about Obama about Obama’s citizenship he said, “I don’t know.” Perhaps he needs to visit FactCheck.org.

Here is the audio courtesy of Think Progress:

Neugebauer was asked about the birth certificate bill. He said, "You know that is a Constitutional requirement, and when office holders go whether it is a city council, or a state rep or a United States congressman, there are certain requirements that they must meet, and you know there was some question in the last election, about both candidates, so why not just have that candidate furnish documentation that says that this particular individual is a natural born citizen and then all of these questions aren’t lurking out there. It doesn’t apply to the last election. Some people think it is a bill to throw out Barack Obama, it’s not. It’s saying in the next presidential election let’s make sure that presidential candidates meet the Constitutional requirement.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizenship; eligibility; hawaii; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; truthers; usurper
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Hopefully, more congressman will grow a pair and support mandatory documentation.
1 posted on 06/23/2009 8:12:34 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Why? It’s not like there’s actually going to be another Presidential election or anything.


2 posted on 06/23/2009 8:13:53 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: pissant; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; autumnraine; AZ .44 MAG; azishot; backhoe; Beckwith; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 06/23/2009 8:15:34 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 155 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: pissant

There isn’t one.

Demons are conjured up, not born.


4 posted on 06/23/2009 8:16:17 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: pissant
I recommend thoroughly reviewing the following website to indict BO. www.americangrandjury.org
5 posted on 06/23/2009 8:17:13 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: pissant

If we’re ever going to get our hands on it, we better do it before those lunatics in North Korea nuke Hawaii.


6 posted on 06/23/2009 8:18:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out? Are you scared yet?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If the BC is there, do you really think Zero would try to prevent such a thing?

I doubt it.


7 posted on 06/23/2009 8:19:25 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: Califreak

I think he has already said he wouldn’t stop the North Koreans from nuking Hawaii. That would be “meddling.”


8 posted on 06/23/2009 8:20:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out? Are you scared yet?)
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To: Califreak

that’s right...there is no birth certificate and Obama is not the rightful president.


9 posted on 06/23/2009 8:24:17 PM PDT by fabian
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To: pissant
Neugebauer really needs to visit FactCheck.org, which wrote that, “We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.”

The fact is that Obama’s birth certificate is not hidden. It is in his Chicago office. The reason why Rep. Neugebauer has never seen any evidence is because he doesn’t want to see the truth. The birther bill is going nowhere, because even if the bill was passed, conspiracy theorists would find some other way to doubt Obama’s citizenship. FactCheck also has high resolution photos of the Obama birth certificate. The birther bill is pointless and unnecessary. It is nothing more than a way to keep a conspiracy theory alive.

Forgive the long paste from the linked article..but here is what I don't understand..I am not a lawyer..yet I don't know of any U.S. court that would allow documents to be entered as evidence based on someone's word when we can see the document ourselves..just because someone has "touched it" etc..just doesn't ring true..why has obama spent millions defending lawsuits when a twelve dollar sheet of paper can stop them dead in their tracks???..and besides..who the hell is factchecks.org???

10 posted on 06/23/2009 8:25:09 PM PDT by BerniesFriend (no no..arrrrwwwhhh..as in surprise..)
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To: BerniesFriend

Factcheck.org is a shill for zero.


11 posted on 06/23/2009 8:27:31 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“If we’re ever going to get our hands on it, we better do it before those lunatics in North Korea nuke Hawaii.”

Better work fast. 0 will be eating hotdogs with the Iranians at the WH 4th BBQ .... AND it’s ‘date night.’


12 posted on 06/23/2009 8:27:36 PM PDT by maggief
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To: pissant

13 posted on 06/23/2009 8:28:25 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Because they didn't want to receive the truth,.God gave them over to a depraved mind.)
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To: BerniesFriend

Obama, Bill Ayers, and FactCheck.Org: All Have Ties To Annenberg Foundation

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/10/obama-bill-ayers-and-factcheckorg-all-have-ties-to-annenberg-foundation/


14 posted on 06/23/2009 8:28:46 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: Man50D

thanks for the link.


15 posted on 06/23/2009 8:28:49 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I think he has already said he wouldn’t stop the North Koreans from nuking Hawaii. That would be 'meddling'

Good one!!

STE=Q

16 posted on 06/23/2009 8:29:11 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: BerniesFriend

It is funny that Obama let’s factcheck.org see the certification of live birth, but does not enter it into evidence in the court cases. Instead spends nearly a million to fight submitting any proof (I suppose that is the transparency Obama campaigned so much on). Hawaii may in fact recognize Obama as a natural born citizen, but Hawaii is very lax in that area. What hospital was Obama borned in and who delivered him? Ideally there should be a real birth certificate which provides these details. But I don’t see that happening. Obama appears to be hiding something about his birth.


17 posted on 06/23/2009 8:30:55 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: pissant

“It’s saying in the NEXT presidential election let’s make sure that presidential candidates meet the Constitutional requirement.”

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This is questionable, the word “next”. So what’s he really getting at...the fact that no one will impeach the Zero so let him play out his 4 years? Or is it to make sure that he doesn’t qualify to run again after 4 years?


18 posted on 06/23/2009 8:31:15 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: pissant
bill which would mandate that all presidential candidates file birth certificates with the Federal Election Commission

Man, I'm so naive I thought this was already being done.
19 posted on 06/23/2009 8:31:45 PM PDT by weef
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To: pissant
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511
20 posted on 06/23/2009 8:31:51 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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