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Hopefully, more congressman will grow a pair and support mandatory documentation.
1 posted on 06/23/2009 8:12:34 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Why? It’s not like there’s actually going to be another Presidential election or anything.


2 posted on 06/23/2009 8:13:53 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Ping!


3 posted on 06/23/2009 8:15:34 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 155 of our national holiday from reality.)
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There isn’t one.

Demons are conjured up, not born.


4 posted on 06/23/2009 8:16:17 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: pissant
I recommend thoroughly reviewing the following website to indict BO. www.americangrandjury.org
5 posted on 06/23/2009 8:17:13 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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If we’re ever going to get our hands on it, we better do it before those lunatics in North Korea nuke Hawaii.


6 posted on 06/23/2009 8:18:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out? Are you scared yet?)
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Neugebauer really needs to visit FactCheck.org, which wrote that, “We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.”

The fact is that Obama’s birth certificate is not hidden. It is in his Chicago office. The reason why Rep. Neugebauer has never seen any evidence is because he doesn’t want to see the truth. The birther bill is going nowhere, because even if the bill was passed, conspiracy theorists would find some other way to doubt Obama’s citizenship. FactCheck also has high resolution photos of the Obama birth certificate. The birther bill is pointless and unnecessary. It is nothing more than a way to keep a conspiracy theory alive.

Forgive the long paste from the linked article..but here is what I don't understand..I am not a lawyer..yet I don't know of any U.S. court that would allow documents to be entered as evidence based on someone's word when we can see the document ourselves..just because someone has "touched it" etc..just doesn't ring true..why has obama spent millions defending lawsuits when a twelve dollar sheet of paper can stop them dead in their tracks???..and besides..who the hell is factchecks.org???

10 posted on 06/23/2009 8:25:09 PM PDT by BerniesFriend (no no..arrrrwwwhhh..as in surprise..)
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13 posted on 06/23/2009 8:28:25 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Because they didn't want to receive the truth,.God gave them over to a depraved mind.)
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“It’s saying in the NEXT presidential election let’s make sure that presidential candidates meet the Constitutional requirement.”

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This is questionable, the word “next”. So what’s he really getting at...the fact that no one will impeach the Zero so let him play out his 4 years? Or is it to make sure that he doesn’t qualify to run again after 4 years?


18 posted on 06/23/2009 8:31:15 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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bill which would mandate that all presidential candidates file birth certificates with the Federal Election Commission

Man, I'm so naive I thought this was already being done.
19 posted on 06/23/2009 8:31:45 PM PDT by weef
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A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511
20 posted on 06/23/2009 8:31:51 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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From the article - ‘Perhaps he needs to visit FactCheck.org.’

I just did. What’s listed there is The Certificate of Live Birth. Front only. Libs need to have it pounded into their heads that a COLB IS NOT a birth certificate!!!!


21 posted on 06/23/2009 8:32:44 PM PDT by joejm65 (Courage happens after fear says it's prayers.)
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I had to get my drivers license renewed today - I've had a drivers license here for over 50 years. I had to provide my birth cert. = not a copy.

But then, I'm a white-haired ole great-granny in my mid-seventies. Who knows what I might be up too.

I took a plane trip a couple months ago = My hair is long and I wear it in a bun. The security attendant went through my hair like I might have a bomb in there.
And the rivets in my jeans set off the alarm so they made me unbutton the top button and turn the waistline down all around while they ran their hands along it.

I guess I need to change my name to Gomez or Husein and wear a burka...then I won't be ‘molested.’

27 posted on 06/23/2009 8:45:25 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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Gotta get in touch with this guy ASAP. Give him the skinny on the felony frsudulent birth certificate and what he needs to do,


39 posted on 06/23/2009 9:11:10 PM PDT by Polarik
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Yes, and by passing this, it still throws a little light on the fact that Obama HASN’T shown he is constitutionally eligible. So I’m glad this is coming up.


65 posted on 06/24/2009 3:29:03 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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Finally someone is speaking out.


81 posted on 06/24/2009 6:42:31 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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obumpa


84 posted on 06/24/2009 11:48:22 AM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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When asked about Obama about Obama’s citizenship he said, “I don’t know.”

What a liar and wuss! What he is supporting is because of Obama. The repubs did nothing before and their half-ass attempts now are worthless.
98 posted on 06/24/2009 9:35:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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Obama has Never Produced a Birth Certificate

And he never will because he is not a natural born citizen.

99 posted on 06/24/2009 9:58:55 PM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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The posted article is nothing more than an a defensive piece of propaganda from the Obama camp. It is so full of lies that going point by point to rebut it is a waste of time. Suffices to note that the author considers FactCheck.org a credible authority on forensic document examination! But the very fact that it was written indicates that the Obamatons are still concerned, even though they pretend otherwise.
116 posted on 06/25/2009 2:23:13 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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I think it’s closing the stable door after the horses are out.

Even if it passes, Obama will predictably send in his lawyers to argue that he cannot be required to produce a birth certificate ex post facto. Sure, it’s a new election, but he’s already in office and can’t be required to do it.

It’s the mirror image of the understanding that a president already in office isn’t eligible to serve a third term even if a constitutional amendment is passed, since it doesn’t apply to someone already in office.

Not that Obama isn’t capable of having it both ways. But it would be illegal if he does (though not the first time).


117 posted on 06/25/2009 2:51:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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