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what started this birth certificate debacle?
sarah p

Posted on 01/30/2009 12:56:39 PM PST by sarah p

i have a question. (actually, i have lots of questions!)

what or who was it that first questioned obama's place of birth?

i am trying to figure out the original source of this info. it seems to me that the key accusation of his kenyan birth came from some who either knew or speculated that his mother traveled to kenya in the summer of 1961. it is certainly a reasonable hypothesis, but is there any evidence or reference that someone can site as to the first person that claimed this?

i think that philip berg was the first to claim that obama's mother traveled to kenya. does anyone recall if he actually was the first and, if so, what he based this claim on?

before you all start calling me an obot, here me out.

I BELIEVE THAT OBAMA IS CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE TO BE POTUS, regardless of where he was born because his father was never a US citizen.

it is possible that the kenyan birth theory could have been started to divert our attention from the obvious and well documented fact that obama is not a nbc because his father was a foreign national.

this birth certificate issue has been twisted by the media and others, resulting in anyone who questioned his eligibility to be labeled as "wacko conspiracy theorists, racists, etc. this has resulted in the loss of credibility of this issue in the public eye and hinders otherwise intelligent citizens from looking further into the details of this case.

it is a safe assumption that a harvard trained constitutional lawyer, such as obama, would know the definition of nbc and how he is not one.

of course, i still think it's possible that he was born in kenya. i just think it is easy to get lost in all of the evidence and theories. it would be a good idea for us to step back, look at the big picture and try to determine how this whole mess began.

good bless america! thanks to all who still want to protect our constitution.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcerificate; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; historicevent; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 01/30/2009 12:56:39 PM PST by sarah p
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To: sarah p

I don’t care who started it. I just want to know why Zero chhoses to leave it hanging out there when he could simply clear it up.


2 posted on 01/30/2009 12:58:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: sarah p
Obama's aunt/grandmother started it when she said she was present there in Kenya as he, Obama, was being born.

Obviously she was mistaken ~ crazy old lady ~ hereditary mental illness or something.

3 posted on 01/30/2009 1:00:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: sarah p

make up your mind... are you sarah p or pocket5s?
Same form letter entered twice by new members?
IBTZ


4 posted on 01/30/2009 1:01:28 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: theDentist

Exactly what i was thinking.


5 posted on 01/30/2009 1:02:58 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: cripplecreek

If Obama ever fesses up, it will only be after a year, once he has some runs on the board. He will then be in a position to say “but I have been doing a great job for a year. What’s driving this enquiry? Are you RACIST???” and that will be the end of that.

That is why, I believe, this flurry of executive orders within his first fortnight in office. Gotta get them runs on the board real quick...


6 posted on 01/30/2009 1:03:35 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: sarah p
So...those bagless vacuum cleaners...

What do you think?

Do they suck as good as the ones that have bags in them?

It is critical that I know this very soon. Respond quickly, please.

7 posted on 01/30/2009 1:03:41 PM PST by Allegra ( VOTE, Iraqis! Election Day, Saturday, January 31, 2009)
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To: sarah p

8 posted on 01/30/2009 1:04:16 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: Allegra

Either one, I think, will pull the socks right off your feet.


9 posted on 01/30/2009 1:05:20 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (The emporer has no pedigree.)
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To: sarah p
what started this birth certificate debacle?

Barack Obama

10 posted on 01/30/2009 1:06:51 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: sarah p
Are you birthers talking trash about

The Big Wagyu

The Big Wagyu?

He's better than ALL of us! Leave Barack alone!

image courtesy of http:www.allenbrothers.com Allen Brothers - The Steak People!

11 posted on 01/30/2009 1:07:55 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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To: sarah p
it is possible that the kenyan birth theory could have been started to divert our attention from the obvious and well documented fact that obama is not a nbc because his father was a foreign national

Obvious and well documented, but a claim not supported by any law, clause of the Constitution, or Supreme Court decision.

12 posted on 01/30/2009 1:08:47 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: muawiyah
Obama's aunt/grandmother started it when she said she was present there in Kenya as he, Obama, was being born.

Anyone seen a transcript of what she actually said? Got a link?

13 posted on 01/30/2009 1:09:47 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: sarah p

I think it was like the Dan Rather Forgery (I love calling it that - Hi Dan!)

Someone took a close look at the ‘official’ one they released to factcheck . org and it is an obvious fake.


14 posted on 01/30/2009 1:10:48 PM PST by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: sarah p

The interesting thing is, this isn’t some ‘right wing conspiracy’, this started with Berg, a Hillary Clinton supporter. Bambi can’t say that it is the right-wing Republicans going after him.. Berg has also sued President Bush..

..so, you can say, this demand for proof of Obama’s citizenship is actually bi-partisan.


15 posted on 01/30/2009 1:10:50 PM PST by mnehring
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To: cripplecreek
I just want to know why Zero chhoses to leave it hanging out there when he could simply clear it up.

Your question is the answer. It couldn't be cleared up, at least not in a way that would please the Marxist Regime.

16 posted on 01/30/2009 1:12:53 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Allegra
The Dyson vacuum cleaners are a miracle of modern technology. They are much better than the ones with bags.


I have an owl.

No, no wait I don't.

17 posted on 01/30/2009 1:13:18 PM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: agere_contra; Hegemony Cricket
I have an owl.

No, no wait I don't.

I caught a lizard and kept him for a pet for a few days when I was a kid.

I named him Roy.

18 posted on 01/30/2009 1:15:23 PM PST by Allegra ( VOTE, Iraqis! Election Day, Saturday, January 31, 2009)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Well we have Obam’s very expensive legal talent trying to get a judge to accept factcheck.org as proof Obama was born in Hawaii. How pathetic is that? It is making more people believe he was not born in HI.


19 posted on 01/30/2009 1:16:25 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Non-Sequitur
a claim not supported by any law, clause of the Constitution, or Supreme Court decision.

We have to remember that the Supreme Court also once held that coloreds were private property...

20 posted on 01/30/2009 1:17:08 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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