Posted on 01/02/2009 11:14:35 PM PST by Kevmo
There are also 2 “Conferences” with the SCOTUS Justices scheduled for January 16 over this Obama non-citizenship issue.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
I thought it was one conference on Jan 9, and one on Jan 16? Either way, I’m reminded that Berg v Obama has been forwarded for conference TWICE, which means that out of 5 concurrent cases before the SCOTUS, there have been 4 forwards for conference. According to congressman Billybob, our resident FR constitutional scholar, the chances of one case getting forwarded are 99.5% against, or 1/200. So the chances of any 3 cases getting forwarded is (1/200)^3, or 1/8Million. So with a 4th forwarding now in play, it looks like we are in truly rare stratosphere of (1/200)^4 or 1/160Million.
Another point I make about the installation of a forgery is that it would push this issue into the realm of the experts, and there are precious few. Polarik is one of them and he gets to make money off this whole episode in poltics by writing a book on the subject. He’ll need to be ready to hit the ground running when/if a longform BC is produced from team zer0bama.
.... and there is a case in the Washington State Supreme Court, Broe vs. Reed, challenging the Obama non-citizenship issue!
But that one hasn’t been forwarded for conference by SCOTUS. Yet.
Certainly, we have evidence that someone other than Dunham and Obama lived at the listed address, and the unsworn statements by the neighbor saying that she has never seen a black man with a white woman living there.
The neighbor also confirmed that Thelma Young and Orland Lefforge lived there from before 1961 until their deaths in 2007 and 2008 (is that correct?) and that the property and tax records confirm it (again, do we have copies of these documents?).
Can we get signed statements or certified documents attesting to this?
More importantly, we found evidence of tampering with the birth announcement image, and what seems to be a case like the COLB where one seed forgery spawned a handful of copies.
I wish that we had a FReeper in Honolulu who could track this stuff down.
It seems apparent that a presidential candidate is seeking to change the present state of affairs by wanting to become the new President. The candidate is also the one who is claiming that something exists, which in this case, is that he is a natural born citizen. Furthermore, he is also applying for a job. As such, the burden of proof rests on him.
Absolutely reasonable. How can it be otherwise except in the upside down land of Obamania???
Ya gotta invoke Polarik's Principle here:
A forgery created to prove a claim will repudiate that claim."
Once it was established that Obama created a forgery to prove his claim of being a natural-born citizen, that claim no longer had any validity. a Presidential candidate who resorts to creating a forgery to deceive the American public and to help get himself elected, should never be allowed to serve as President, regardless of whether he is, or is not, a natural-born citizen. Look at the Oath of Office a President must recite:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
How can anyone swear or affirm that he will "faithfully" execute the office of President when he is not been faithful to the truth? He is a person who who has proven by his actions that he does not have steadfast and resolute loyalty to the people and to the United States.
He has shown by his actions that he has no intention of preserving, protecting, and defending the Constitution. Has he ever said anything positive about the Constitution? What hje has said is than it is "too restrictive," and that is not a statement of someoe who will preserve and protect our Constitution.
People are not admitted to the military if they cheat on their tests or forge their transcripts. The same rules apply for every high-level job -- if lie on your job application, you will be terminated. It says so on every job application i've ever seen.
Yet, could it be that we are going to look the other way because this is the Chosen One, and rules for everyone else don't apply to him?
I don't know when or how people got it into their heads that the forgery doesn't matter anymore. The heck it does, and if we ever get to see his real birth record, how will Obama explain the discrepancies? He cannot say that he was unaware of it. He's already condoned it by his silence and by refusal to produce a real document, and not a forgery.
There is no legitimate reason for the forgery. None. I'd like for someone to give me an honest and accurate answer as to why this fraudulent act should not influence Obama's claim to the Presidency. The case cannot be made that he won the election, fair and square -- not when it required subterfuge to secure it. Not when it required a suspension of ethics and a disregard of the Constitution to secure it. Not for someone who promised to run a transparent race and administration.
Looking at the AOL poll, you will see that the cast majority of Americans believe that the birth certificate issue has merit. That question is a bit vague. What they should be asking is, "What should happen if Obama's real, original birth certificate proves that Obama intentionally created and posted a forged one instead?"
how many people will check off, "He should be allowed to become President anyway?'
a Presidential candidate who resorts to creating a forgery to deceive the American public and to help get himself elected, should never be allowed to serve as President, regardless of whether he is, or is not, a natural-born citizen.
***Yup. I agree. When I turn it around and look at some conservative that might have submitted such a forgery for the same purpose, I would throw him under the constitutional bus in a nanosecond.
I wish that we had a FReeper in Honolulu who could track this stuff down.
***Let’s run this up the flagpole and see if it gets saluted. Post how much money it would take to get you to Hawaii and start digging, to take a leave of absence from work because your country calls. It would be similar to being called up by the reserves. We need a figure so I can ask God to provide that money. You’re the guy to send.
Maybe SCOTUS is not rushing because PE has until January 20 to qualify. ??
***I would suggest that’s a reasonably strong likelihood. The SCOTUS doesn’t want to embarrass lower courts, who denied many of these lawsuits (including Berg) due to “lack of standing”. Once he becomes Pres elect and congress has had their chance to uphold the constitution (I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one) then they can step in per the 20th amendment. At that point, Berg would have standing.
Uhbama - Show us the real thing bump!
I’ve never been to Hawaii, so yeah, send me there. But, only after I’ve scraped enough to pay my rent this month.
Obama, Pelosi and other top DNC officials should go to jail for fraud.
If a copy of the real one is obtained, it would be nice to see such a travesty against the American people be found out and dealt with according to the same processes that govern us all.
But, only after I’ve scraped enough to pay my rent this month.
***Let us know. Time for a fundraiser. Time to find a nice condo where you can stay for a couple of months. If your work is done sooner than that, you can get a start on your book. So how much would it take? Rent + salary + expenses + some fun. Put up a figure. You’d be a private investigator dude...
Please read the Freepmail I just sent you. Orland and Thelma were not the owners of the birth announcement until their deaths. Nani Smethurst has been the owner since 1979. Orland and Thelma and Orland and his second wife Elaine Childs Lefforge were constantly buying and selling properties and trying to follow all of the transactions becomes very confusing over a short period of time!
I’m good for a couple of hundred Aussie bucks! Let’s take some pledges, and if this thing about the ‘funny’ birth announcement isn’t making any progress within the next few days, set up a paypal account for Polarik.
What say you, all the LucyT ping list people?
Thank you, Fred Nerks. Me, too.
Ping.
[In a few minutes I’ll be sending The List a FRmail.]
LET’S ROLL!
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