Posted on 12/13/2008 3:17:20 PM PST by mainestategop
December 8th was the anniversary of the death of Beatle John Lenon. Most of the world mourned the death of this man for his music but most of all for his views or I should say imagination. Well if we understood more about who he was and what he imagined, we would be celebrating rather mourning. Why? John's views were hostile towards the American ideals of individualism freedom and liberty and supportive of worldwide despotic communism at the hands of the New World order. His song Imagine was nothing more than a call for the destruction of America and religion and unity under a world wide socialist dictatorship.
We are already well on our way there. America, the last vestige of any kind of individual liberty is crumbling before our eyes. The past 18 years alone has seen the growth of tyranny of government and the loss of constitutional liberties. We are paying more and more for less and less for those who won't work, we are seeing our rights trampled on while criminals get away with murder, we see our business system crumble and give way to outsourcing, illegal immigrant job theft, over regulation and over taxation. Our morals have also taken a nose dive. Prop 8 may have passed in California and we may be taking back ground in some places but its still happening elsewhere. The values of the left that came about through the British invation and the hippies lead the way downhill.
Let us disect the meaning of the lyrics of Imagine and let us examined what Lennon stood for. John Lennon as we know was no friend of ours. Lennon was an open and avowed marxist who expressed his hatred for America and freedom and for America's independance. He is also notorious for airing blasphemy against Christ and the bible. He even faced deportation.
The song Imagine expresses just what he stood for:
Imagine there's no heaven, its easy if you try, no hell below us, above us only sky, imagine all the people, living for today.
In other words, imagine we were not accountable to a supreme being for our actions. Imagine we could go around doing drugs, getting drunk, commiting murder and other evil acts not to mention squandering our futures and our children's futures. Imagine living only for today! Well if there were no God we were accountable we could and avoid the consequences. Well, we ARE accountable to God for what we do in this life. We are required to protect the weak and down trodden, to safeguard liberty, to uphold the value of human life and leave this world as good as if not a better place than before to our descendants. Instead we now have an upayable debt, a nation that is becoming weaker and its all because we are living for today.
Imagine there's no countries, It isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die for no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace
Imagine no countries. What is a country? A country is defined as a soverign and independant nation. Our country, is not just that but more, it used to be a nation of sovereign and independant individuals! Not anymore. We are no longer independant citizens but becoming world citizens of a worldwide collective. Not a very good one at that. Lennon also makes the mistake of believing that we have wars because of nationalism and religion. That can be a factor but if we look back that isn't the case. In the beginning in the days of Cain and Abel there certainly weren't any major differences like religion or countries, that didn't stop Cain from commiting the first murder.
The soviet Union was one big country without religion yet the governemt killed many people and many people died. Hardly anyone lived life in peace there. So atheism once again proves to be flawed as with Lennon's views.
Imagine no possesions I wonder if you can No need for greed no hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people sharing all the world
You can say that Im a dreamer but Im not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one
Imagine no possesions. More like a worldwide collective where the state owns everything and everyone. Just like what Lennon advocates. Ironically Lennon was worth a ton of money when he died so he never practiced what he preached.
Lennon was criticized for his wealth during his Playboy interview but defended himself by pointing out how difficult it is to leave a materialist world behind once you are caught up in it and comparing this to leaving the Beatles:
PLAYBOY: "Why does anyone need $150,000,000? Couldn't you be perfectly content with $100,000,000? Or $1,000,000?"
LENNON: "What would you suggest I do? Give everything away and walk the streets? The Buddhist says 'get rid of the possessions of the mind'. Walking away from all the money would not accomplish that. It's like the Beatles. I couldn't walk away from the Beatles. That's one possession that's still tagging along, right? If I walk away from one house or 400 houses, I'm not gonna escape it."
Then there is his call for a brotherhood of man, where the world is one. Now I would have no problem with that if only the world government that they want us to submit to wasn't so anti freedom and anti Christ. The other problem is man's sinful and fallen nature that hinders this desire. No matter what the left does to obtain utopia on earth it is always a failure.
John Lennon wasn't a Beetle, he was a locust and I imagine there's no leftists, no atheism too where people live life in peace. Thanks to leftists like John Lennon and those who followed him who even now occupy our places of power, we have no peace. Posted by mainestategop at 6:00 PM Labels: atheism, beatles, communism, fascism, hypocrisy, imagine, johnlennon, leftists, liberals, marxism, nwo, terrorism
Anybody who would hook up with Yoko Ono had a couple of screws loose for sure .
I didn't shed a tear and for the life of me, I can't figure out why he was considered a musical icon. Other than being a member of the "Beatles" and marrying that twit YOKO, what were his noteworthy accomplishments?????????
make sure you listen to this whole youtube clip a rare lost beatle song. Turn it up :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqCpvzXGTE
I met her at O’Hare once. Well, not exactly met, she tried to bump me off a flight ‘cause her’s was canceled. What a conceited, snot-bitch, she was, too. Her, uh, traveling companion tried to intimidate me even. LOL
Co-incidentally, years earlier, I was the on air personality at a small Christian radio station the night Lennon was killed and broke it our to audience. We got one phone call. LOL
Fvck John Lennon, and all the Beat-ills, for that mater.
LOL. Well said.
For me The Beatles apex was between the end of 1964 through 1966 with Help , Rubber Soul and Revolver . Singles like Rain , Ticket To Ride , Eight Days A Week ...
the leftism which is now destroying us started long before Lennon
Day Tripper , Paperback Writer too ...
“Who wrote Helter Skelter?”
That one was Paul.
I love John’s music. I don’t care if I agree with the political views of a performer.
Can’t disagree with you there. Certainly 80% forgettable.
They all had some differing degree of success post-Beatles but their whole was better than their parts. (hardly an original thought, I do admit!)
If you look at my “about” you can guess my age...Beatles were BIG part of my life as a young man..
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By then they were no longer collaborating much, as Yoko had come on the scene. John was doing heroin, which also did not help.
IMHO, one of the gaps in the Beatles collection is an album of cover songs. I would have loved to hear their voices on rock, R&B and vocal standards of the 40's and 50's. If they had done so, they might have stayed together longer as a band, as there would not have been the pressure to write the songs. They probably could have come up with some great sounding stuff in a couple weeks in the studio.
Despite his leftism and atheism, it's too bad he died so young. I think he would have fit right in with the 90's grunge movement. Eventually there would have been some kind of a Beatles reunion; it would not have had the magic of the 60's, but it would have been fun nonetheless.
In the end, John's fatal flaw was the leftist's inability to recognize the evil in human nature. When talking about how he and Yoko strolled around NYC without bodyguards, he said something like, "Oh, they're just fans, they don't want to hurt you."
John was great when he had a check on his songwriting excesses (a tendency toward navel-gazing and overwroughtness) by Paul. When he went Plastic Ono on us, it was all downhill (same goes for Paul with Wings).
I’ll state the obvious here.
You havent been here very long.
you are exactly right.
Bach was a nice man.
Wagner was an anti Semitic autocrat.
They both wrote sublime music.
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In the past, I felt the same. I gobbled up Beatles albums like candy, and even replaced some with CD's, John Lennon's leftism notwithstanding.
However, it should be noted that John, unlike the leftist performers of today, largely stayed out of partisan politics. Yes, he became an opponent of the Viet Nam war, but that was him jumping on the bandwagon. Even after he got his green card, and thus could be as outspoken as he wanted, I don't recall him campaigning against Reagan.
These days you get performers avowedly supporting Kerry, 0bama. IMHO, if you buy a leftist's product, you are making a de facto contribution to the DNC.
“..why was he considered a musical icon..Other than being a member of the Beatles...”
You just answered your own question. The most influential and loved musical phenom of the past 100 years.
I am wrong?...ok, name the other.
Yes, Grut”
I thought that “celebrated death” was a bit less Christian than these poseurs should display
and here i am trying to imagine if Secure America exists...or ever has.
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