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The Second American Revolution
www.clipser.com ^ | December 7 , 2008 | MisterHappy ( Clipser user )

Posted on 12/08/2008 1:53:27 PM PST by mosquewatch

"Thomas Paine, author of "Common Sense," returns to modern times to plea for a second revolution to take back America, Now!"

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To: WackySam

It’s when the workers eat enough dirt while the freeloaders lord it over them, then the revolution will come comrade. So has it always been.


21 posted on 12/08/2008 2:54:24 PM PST by ichabod1 (You won't know obammunism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: Howie66

Count me in .. Good with a firearm at 250 yds .


22 posted on 12/08/2008 2:56:59 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: ichabod1

“The revolution will come when the money to pay for the perks is not there any longer.”

Exactly.


23 posted on 12/08/2008 2:59:42 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: mosquewatch
I recommend the entire text of Thomas Paine's Common Sense.

Cited before on this forum but worth repeating because the French Revolution, although out of similar sympathies, ended up in a much different way - the dictator Napolean Bonaparte - than the American version. That is, when Lafayette, ally of the American Revolution, sprung open the Bastille, twelve old men emerged, looked around, and through the fact they had for so long been imprisoned and dispirited, declined the light, turned back and rejoined the dungeon.

An Austrian friend of mind uses the term, "beaten down" to indicate the extermination of the spirit (of freedom), executed by the Left.

For me the really sad thing, as a part-time college teacher is the obvious cluelessness of America's youth. And of course that the so-called conservative party (Republican) doesn't have a clue, or intention, of enlightening them.

We are dealing here on a genuinely religious front. The spirit is either within the self, ala Christianity, and maybe Buddhism, or evaporated by external authority, ala the Semitic religions.

That's the way it is.

ref: Common Sense (Paine), The Outline of History (HG Wells), The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind (Jaynes), The Trilogy (CS Lewis), The New Testament (M/M/L/J), Hamlet (Shakespeare), The Pentagon of Power (Mumford), The Rise of the West (McNeill), Mohammed and Charlemagne, (Pirenne), The Republic (Plato), Conversation with a Chinese, Voltaire.

24 posted on 12/08/2008 3:04:32 PM PST by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: mosquewatch

I’ve been ready. Sadly, we are being slowly boiled by socialism. By the time enough people realize it, we’ll be too weak to revolt. Also, I just do not see even a single, strong leader in the public view - at the time of the original revolution, there were many.

I wish we would split = the middle of the country return to our constitution, work ethic, personal liberty, and a tiny government; and the east/west coasts plus the upper midwest can form their perfect socialist utopia where everyone has everything and nobody has to work.


25 posted on 12/08/2008 3:06:15 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: mosquewatch

There will be no second revolution.

There will be no civil war.

There will be no secession.

There will be no conservative insurrection.

And no amount of Pollyana-speak is going to change the Sheep.


26 posted on 12/08/2008 3:11:51 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: mosquewatch

Thanks for the link. It was painfully slow, will watch later.

“The video is not about violence, it’s about pressure on our leaders.”

To be safe, we should proceed with that pressure today Dec 8 under the assumption the courts will do nothing prior to Jan 8 with regard to O’s eligibility. In other words, we cannot afford to wait until Jan 8 to take action.

See my About page in this regard.

Pressure has been the traditional means available to us, but it appears from the recent election we may no longer be dealing with tradition. We might even expect in the foreseeable future to see the taxpayers outnumbered by the tax recipients.

Another poster pointed out, “We have a right to change the form of the government.”

Well, if that is true then it is true for “them” as well and I submit “they” are outplaying us.

“The Marxists and Capitalists are struggling in a non-violent civil war for the government of our nation, but only the Marxists seem to know that”


27 posted on 12/08/2008 3:18:47 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Renegade

Me too, even though I’m approaching sixty and have increasing lower extremity difficulties. The militia was once defined as all able-bodied between 16 and 60.


28 posted on 12/08/2008 3:24:27 PM PST by Dagny&Hank
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To: Dagny&Hank

60 today is more like 45-50 for a lot of guys.


29 posted on 12/08/2008 3:27:17 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: mosquewatch; All

Everybody here should remember that massive social changes, such as revolutions, whether violent or not, are usually brought about by a minority of the population. We do not have to motivate every last, lazy, apathetic sheep to get this change going. Once we get some momentum, the sheep will follow, as they always do. Don’t ever lose heart.


30 posted on 12/08/2008 3:31:48 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: mosquewatch
There will not be a revolution so much as a collapse. The United States will tax and spend its way into oblivion in 20 years or less.
31 posted on 12/08/2008 3:42:03 PM PST by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, he believes government is the solution, rather than the problem)
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To: WackySam
"The money is already gone, it's when the credit is gone that the revolution will come."

As with all brilliant statements, said with an economy of words. The credit will dry up shortly. Foreign banks are already trying to convert their dollar reserves into other assets, esp. gold and other precious metals. There will be utter calamity when U.S. paper is downgraded to AA (only a couple of steps above junk bond status).
32 posted on 12/08/2008 3:53:32 PM PST by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, he believes government is the solution, rather than the problem)
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; ...
If we do have AR II I won't have to change my flag! The old one still works. Why is it CW II not AR II? I guess it's because it is Americans against Americans again, not us against outsiders?? Hmm.
33 posted on 12/08/2008 3:58:46 PM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: mosquewatch

That doesn’t sound like Paine. I don’t mean voice but Paine was a different sort of cat and I think this guy should have picked maybe someone else, like John Adams, to say some of these things.


34 posted on 12/08/2008 3:58:54 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Old Sarge

I agree. It seems to be the natural societal progression of great nations to go quitely into the night of irrelevance.


35 posted on 12/08/2008 4:03:14 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: mosquewatch; All
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36 posted on 12/08/2008 4:04:04 PM PST by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: Old Sarge

“There will be no second revolution.

There will be no civil war.

There will be no secession.

There will be no conservative insurrection.

And no amount of Pollyana-speak is going to change the Sheep.”


You are right on Old Sarge:

Just go to the threads re the possible problems with Zer0’s being a natural born citizen and read all of the replies by senior Freepers saying to forget the constitution. Let Zer0 become president to avoid the riots if he doesjn’t become president. They are in agreement with the Move on Trolls infecting those sites.

My tagline is a sad joke about where America is and is heading at supersonic speed.


37 posted on 12/08/2008 4:14:39 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger for US el presidente 2112!)
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To: mosquewatch
The video is not about violence, it’s abour pressure on our leaders. Tell them “Do what we say, or get their collective asses thrown out of office.”

Really? Well, sounds good. So what is your plan to replace Ted Keenedy with someone who respects the Constitution? Or Nancy, or searchlight Harry or....

38 posted on 12/08/2008 4:55:58 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Jack Black

No, if it happens it will be Americans against those who call themselves “Americans”.


39 posted on 12/08/2008 5:09:51 PM PST by sport
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To: Old Sarge
Damn, I hope you are wrong. I am afraid you aren't. We have become a nation of feminist wusses.
40 posted on 12/08/2008 5:16:49 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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