SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 (Unconfirmed, see thread research)

Atlas Shrugs ^

[mnehring]

This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the vault copy by December 1, 2008. I believe the messiah will defy the Justices.

Who will force the issue? Who wants to open up that pandora's box?  Imagine if there is something on that birth certificate that  disqualifies Obama from the office of the President.  What are you going to do? Start a civil war? There will be blood in the streets you try to enforce the rule of law. This should have happened before the election. Obambi knows it too.

Here is the fraud report first reported at Atlas.

The Supreme Court and Obama's Birth Certificate organicpeas

If The Supreme Court Decides…?

At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

"I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect."

Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.

[PghBaldy]

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm

No. 08-570
Title: Philip J. Berg, Petitioner
v.
Barack Obama, et al.

Docketed: October 31, 2008
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (08-4340)
Rule 11

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008)
Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Nov 3 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed.
Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter.

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~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioner:
Philip J. Berg 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12 (610) 825-3134
Lafayette Hill, PA 09867
Party name: Philip J. Berg
Attorneys for Respondents:
Gregory G. Garre Solicitor General (202) 514-2217
United States Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20530-0001
Party name: Federal Election Commission, et al.

[MHGinTN]

I’m sure the Chicoms or Russkies can feed a perfect forgery to the little Marxist squirrel just when he needs it. He need not even know from whence it originated, just use it to fool the doltish Americans.

[txhurl]

“Until that time,” Surrick says,

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That time would be the electors meeting on Dec. 15 to elect 0, right?

He has to be elected before there is damage!

[cripplecreek]

bttt

[kenth]

Yep, so long as the end is the same, the means matter not.

[justiceseeker93]

Imagine if there is something on that certificate that disqualifies Obama from the Office of President. What are you going to do? Start a civil war? There will be blood in the streets if you try to enforce the rule of law.

A lot of blood has been shed to preserve the Constitution for 221 years. Lincoln thought that it was worth the lives of hundreds of thousands of brave men to preserve it. The country has been through serious riots in the streets before and has survived them..

We've had too much cowering on this issue. It's time for the SCOTUS to do the right thing in the Berg case or surrender the Constitution completely to the vandals.

[CaribouCrossing]

Thanks for the link. http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:YVhhSWnaIH0J:http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm+%22writ%20of%20certiorari%22%20berg%20souter&hl=en&ct=clnk

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008)
Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Nov 3 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed.
Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter.

[Phoenix11]

I just meant the API references. LOL. I am completely on your side when it comes to the BC.

[sharkshooting]

Technically, he is not yet elected as President. That happens when the electors actually submit their votes. I think this happens in mid December.

If there is something there and it came out before then, I guess the electors would be free to vote for whomever they chose. They could vote for Biden or McCain or even Hillary I guess. Some states have rules for electors that make them vote the will of the state but if this were to come out....

Now if something like this happened it would lead to civil unrest and rioting on an unpresidented level. It would probably take the National Guard to break it up.

I think this all goes away but I believe if enough lawsuits are filed, maybe this could gain traction. I want to see a real birth certificate, and some information from his adoption.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks justiceseeker93. I’m pretty sure firearms sales are going to continue to climb in anticipation of Obama’s refusal and/or phony birth certificate. It’ll be like the reaction in 2000 when the SCOTUS turned back Gore’s attempt to hijack the White House, but times ten.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States . . . .

What if both parents were U.S. citizens and Obama's father listed on the birth certificate is not Mr.Obama from Kenya?

Recently I searched for some pictures of Frank Marshall Davis -- amazing. Then I easily located much talk that Davis is the father.

[Wings-n-Wind]

The dude is already elected.

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The slates of electors have been elected by the people...

The electoral college meets after the first of the year - IIRC

The president-elect is not officially selected for the office until the electoral college has votes and has published the final and formal results.

[arrogantsob]

Citizens don’t elect the President, Electors do.

[RummyChick]

Here is something from a Raymond S Kraft.
http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:9o9opgMddpEJ:www.therant.us/staff/kraft/2008/07232008.htm+Raymond+S.+Kraft+attorney&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

So how did that blog website come upon an opinion about this produce a birth certificate event?

[The Mayor]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80072

[OrioleFan]

Maybe Souter saw B. Hussein’s lame attempt at a press conference...

[skinkinthegrass]

See #126.
saw that, it was posted ...while i was posting.

[mnehring]

Ping
Why not make your comments on the public forum instead of FReepmail? Maybe you should read the full thread first though for all the ‘points’ that are explored?

[hoosiermama]

IMO It will take DNA test to determine the father of BO. Davis’ poem “A Threesome with a girl named Ann” says it all.

[CaribouCrossing]

Well, alrighty then. Sorry for the confusion. :)