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Need cold medicine? Keep your ID handy [will have to have ID logged to buy cold medication]
Pajamas Media ^ | Jun 2, 2006

Posted on 06/02/2006 1:15:20 PM PDT by John Jorsett

Get ready to give up a little bit of your privacy in exchange for certain allergy or cold medicines.

Starting in late September, just in time for cold season, consumers will be required to fork over photo IDs and list their home addresses in logbooks before buying Sudafed, Contac or other remedies containing the nasal-decongestant pseudoephedrine or similar substances.

Some retailers already are asking for the information, which law-enforcement officials hope will help them fight the illegal production of methamphetamine, a highly addictive drug that can be made, in part, by "cooking" pseudoephedrine.

Consumers in Florida and many other states have grown used to sales restrictions on pseudoephedrine-containing drugs -- including their placement behind pharmacy counters instead of on store shelves.

But the latest rules, which also call for limits on purchases of up to 120 pills a day, are part of a federal effort to combat meth addiction.

Methamphetamine abuse is an increasing problem in the United States, with a recent report by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration saying the number of users admitted to substance-abuse clinics more than quadrupled from 1993 to 2003. The problem is particularly acute in rural America, though the Orlando area also has seen a rise in meth labs.

For instance, last year the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration seized 115 meth labs in Central Florida. In 2000, it seized two.

Tracking sales is critical to stopping the spread of meth labs in Central Florida, said Stephen Collins, who heads the Orlando office of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

Collins said it was "very common" for meth makers to comb the region's stores for cold medicine needed to make the illicit drug.

"We had individuals that would canvass up and down Central Florida and the East Coast and hit numerous stores, buying as much as they could get their hands on," he said. "By limiting this, we hope to see the decrease in the number of labs."

The new regulations, passed in March as part of the USA Patriot Act, are being phased in over the next several months. They are stricter than Florida law and will override it, the Florida Retail Federation said.

Dawn Townsend, a pharmacist at Maitland Rexall Drug Store, said she just recently learned about the logbook rule and is in the process of teaching her staff what to do.

"I don't see it as a hassle," she added.

Industry groups say they expect sales of medicines that contain pseudoephedrine to decline as a result of the law. Already, drug makers are selling reformulated cold medicines that don't need to be placed behind the counter, such as Sudafed PE.

"Most big retailers saw this coming," Walgreen Co. (NYSE:WAG) spokeswoman Carol Hively said.

The rise of meth labs prompted several states, including Florida last summer, to pass laws restricting sales of pseudoephedrine-containing medicine. But while consumers may not mind limits on how much cold medicine they can purchase at one time, they may bristle at giving up personal information to buy it.

"The question here is, is it the job of pharmacies and pharmacists to be a policeman on these products [and] what are the privacy protections for people who legitimately buy these products and have their name recorded somewhere?" said Arthur Levin, director of the New York-based Center for Medical Consumers, a nonprofit advocacy group.

Drugstores say measures are in place to prohibit the disclosure of consumers' private information, which retailers must keep for up to two years after a sale. The federal law, for instance, prohibits retailers from disclosing private information except when a legal request is made by local, state or federal authorities.

"We don't have any intention to use it in any way except to make it available to the authorities," Walgreen's Hively said.

And helping those authorities fight illegal meth production is why Lydia McNeil, 60, of Orlando is willing to give up personal information to buy the Sudafed she uses to treat her colds.

"I wouldn't mind signing anything to keep it out of the hands of the people who are using it for the wrong reason," she said, after shopping at a Walgreens on Michigan Avenue in Orlando.

Though the federal law does not provide for a clearinghouse, so purchases could be tracked from store to store, some retailers are working on that approach themselves within their chains. Walgreens and CVS (NYSE:CVS) -- two of the nation's biggest drugstore chains -- said they are developing systems to monitor sales. Wal-Mart (NYSE:WMT) says it already uses an electronic logbook that can track purchases at individual outlets but not from store to store.

Marianne Myers, 45, who was shopping at an Albertsons (NYSE:ABS) on South Orange Avenue in Orlando, said she understood the motive behind the new measures but lamented the implications.

"It's probably a hassle for us," the Orlando resident said. "It's sad that things have to be like that."


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To: A CA Guy
Why would you not want drugs regulated?

Because government-granted monopolies are as bad as any other kind of monopoly.

In the 1950s, before Medicare and Medicaid and when you could buy codeine cough medicine over-the-counter, medical expenses were 1% of GDP.

Now that the Feds run the entire health care system and just about anything stronger than aspirin is a controlled substance, medical costs are 15% of GDP and growing.

What part of that math confuses you?

41 posted on 06/02/2006 1:52:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: LegendHasIt

I would have told her to drop dead, too! Sheesh, you were there to get cold meds - not a TS/SCI!

Last night, I listened to a radio show that most people consider to be rather wacky but it does offer some interesting perspectives on different issues. The man being interviewed rather blatantly said that we (Americans) are becoming a police state. I've had the same thought a few times - and it's certainly unfortunate that many Americans are so complacent.


42 posted on 06/02/2006 1:52:24 PM PDT by virginiaspook (Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Li)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Forgot to add that they do not however ID me to buy acetone and hydrogen peroxide, nor do they ID me to buy aluminium radiator stop leak and 34-0-0 rapid green (non urea) lawn fertilizer

BOOOM


43 posted on 06/02/2006 1:53:24 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: John Jorsett

I was forced to get a prescription for Claritin-D when Minnesota limited OTC sales to 20 per month. But lo and behold my insurance plan started covering it around that time and now it's only $3 a month, far less than I used to pay.


44 posted on 06/02/2006 1:54:42 PM PDT by non-anonymous
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To: John Jorsett
"Legalize drugs, or else we will steal and murder for them!"

 

That's a threat, an extortion tactic from drug users who are willing to kill for their habit. Such advocates should be jailed for the crimes of threatening to commit murder and robbery.

Or they should shut up. But don't make threats in any case.

45 posted on 06/02/2006 1:58:30 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
For heaven's sake, the cost of drugs are high because of having to make some profit back on the billions of dollars in research it costs to make some of these drugs.

It's not like every drug and research project worked out.
Think of it like the music business. you promote 20 and maybe 1 makes it.
Same with the drugs. They try maybe 50 times and get one good marketable result.

So the reason it is more expensive is they handle harder problems medically and maybe 50 research projects failed to get the one good medication.

Putting some drugs behind the counters as well as putting glue and spray cans behind glass is to prevent miss use of the products, not for monopolies IMO.
46 posted on 06/02/2006 2:00:19 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
47 posted on 06/02/2006 2:04:44 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: John Jorsett
These are the same people who tell us its impossible to know where illegal aliens are in this country but its a matter of life and death that they learn if Joe Six Pack has purchased a nasal spray for his cold. Talk about a misplaced sense of priorities!

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

48 posted on 06/02/2006 2:06:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: John Jorsett

One local neighborhood family of 6 all have allergies. The mom went to the drug store and was informed that she could not purchase enough medication for her family. She couldn't even get enough for the 4 kids. Outrageous.


49 posted on 06/02/2006 2:07:01 PM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: A CA Guy
Why would you not want drugs regulated?

Dude, this is Sudafed for crying out loud!

50 posted on 06/02/2006 2:11:27 PM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: TommyDale

In Maine every prescription for any controlled substance is on an internet database available to all pharmacists Nurse practitioners, physicians assistants, medical assistants and doctors in the state. Courtesy of Dora Mills and others! Her brother is running for governor. that is the man who wanted to kibosh homeschooling.


51 posted on 06/02/2006 2:12:41 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: A CA Guy
Putting some drugs behind the counters as well as putting glue and spray cans behind glass is to prevent miss use of the products, not for monopolies IMO.

Wouldn't you agree as a conservative that that choice should be made by individual business owners?

52 posted on 06/02/2006 2:12:58 PM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jmc813

Which is used in bulk to create a bad drug.

Same reason we put some glues and spray cans behind glass in hardware stores.

You can get stuff, you just will have trouble getting crates of stuff. :-)


53 posted on 06/02/2006 2:13:27 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: John Jorsett
The new regulations, passed in March as part of the USA Patriot Act, are being phased in over the next several months.

WTF??? Aww, hell no!

54 posted on 06/02/2006 2:15:52 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: gondramB

Your bigger concern is pharmacies deciding it's not worth it and stop carrying it.


55 posted on 06/02/2006 2:17:05 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; redhead; WV Mountain Mama

Guys, it says in the article this is federal law, part of the new Patriot Act.

Does anyone have a problem with this besides me?


56 posted on 06/02/2006 2:19:16 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: A CA Guy
The problem with putting those things behind the glass "to prevent misuse" is that it assumes we're all criminals. We're supposed to be innocent until proved guilty in this country, making us sign off to buy non-prescription cold medication or spray paint because some people do stupid things with them breaks that presumption of innocence.
57 posted on 06/02/2006 2:20:06 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: Incorrigible

Don't blame the homos, it ain't just a "gay" drug.


58 posted on 06/02/2006 2:20:36 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: John Jorsett
Illegal aliens are undocumented and are rewarded for breaking the law. Lazy and shiftless Americans with ID are punished for obeying the law. Si Puede!

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

59 posted on 06/02/2006 2:22:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmc813
Wouldn't you agree as a conservative that that choice should be made by individual business owners?

No, because they are profit oriented and are not interested as to what happens to the consumer when they leave their store.

Kids can be sniffing their glue, using drugs made from their store and the store owner would never consider the issue at all.

60 posted on 06/02/2006 2:22:39 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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