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Refuting Darwinism, point by point
WorldNetDaily,com ^ | 1-11-03 | Interview of James Perloff

Posted on 01/11/2003 9:53:34 PM PST by DWar

EVOLUTION WATCH Refuting Darwinism, point by point Author's new book presents case against theory in just 83 pages

Posted: January 11, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: In 1999, author James Perloff wrote the popular "Tornado in a Junkyard," which summarizes much of the evidence against evolution and is considered one of the most understandable (while still scientifically accurate) books on the subject. Recently, WND talked with Perloff about his new book, "The Case Against Darwin."

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

QUESTION: Your new book is just 83 pages – and the type is large. What gives?

ANSWER: This past March I got a call from Ohio. There has been a battle there to allow critical examination of evolutionary theory in public schools, and a gentleman wanted 40 copies of Tornado to give to state legislators and school board members. I was delighted to send him the books, but I also knew that a state legislator isn't likely to pick up anything that's 321 pages long.

Q: And not just state legislators.

A: Right. We live in an age when parents often don't have time to read anything long, and their kids, who are usually more into video, may not have the inclination.

Q: So what's the focus of this book?

A: I've divided it into three chapters. The first is called "Is Darwin's Theory Relevant to Our Lives?" In other words, is the subject of this book worth my time or not? A lot of people think this is simply a science issue. And to some of them, science is booooring. But actually, it's the teaching of Darwin's theory as a "fact" that starts many young people doubting the existence of God. Once we stop believing in God, we discard his moral laws and start making up our own rules, which is basically why our society is in so much trouble. In short, Darwinism is very relevant – it's much more than a science matter.

Q: You, yourself, were an atheist for many years, were you not, as a result of evolutionary teaching?

A: That's right. I thought evolution had discredited the Bible. In my books, I give examples of notables who became atheists from being taught evolution, such as Stalin and Carnegie. In fact, the atheist Boy Scout who's been in the news reportedly attributes his atheism to being taught evolution.

Q: Why do you think evolution has such a persuasively negative effect on faith?

A: First, it's taught as "scientific fact." When kids hear "scientific fact," they think "truth." Who wants to go against truth? Second, it's the only viewpoint that's taught. After the Supreme Court kicked God out of schools in the '60s, kids heard the evolutionist viewpoint exclusively. It's like going to a courtroom – if you only heard the prosecutor's summation, you would probably think the defendant guilty. But if you only heard the defendant's attorney, you'd think "innocent." The truth is, we need to hear both sides, and kids haven't been getting it on the subject of origins.

Q: OK, then what?

A: The second chapter is "Evidence Against the Theory of Evolution." Let's face it, no matter what Darwinism's social ramifications, that alone would not be a sufficient basis to criticize it, if it were scientifically proven true.

Q: In a nutshell – if that's possible – what is the scientific evidence against Darwinism?

A: In the book, I focus on six areas of evidence. First, mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information – even in the rare cases of beneficial mutations, such as bacterial resistance to antibiotics. That has been laid out by Dr. Lee Spetner in his book "Not By Chance."

Q: What else?

A: Second, cells are now known to be far too complex to have originated by some chance concurrence of chemicals, as Darwin hypothesized and is still being claimed. We detail that in the book. Third, the human body has systems, such as blood clotting and the immune system, that are, in the words of biochemist Michael Behe, "irreducibly complex," meaning they cannot have evolved step-by-step. Behe articulated that in his book "Darwin's Black Box." And then there is the whole issue of transitional forms.

Q: What is a transitional form?

A: Darwin's theory envisioned that single-celled ancestors evolved into invertebrates (creatures without a backbone), who evolved into fish, who evolved into amphibians, who evolved into reptiles, who evolved into mammals. Now, a transitional form would be a creature intermediate between these. There would have to be a great many for Darwin's theory to be true.

Q: Are there?

A: There are three places to look for transitional forms. First, there's the living world around us. We see that it is distinctly divided – you have invertebrates, fish, amphibians, reptiles and mammals. But we don't see transitionals between them. If these creatures ever existed, why did none survive? It is too easy to explain it away by saying they all became extinct. And of course, there is the question: Why aren't these creatures evolving into each other today? Why aren't invertebrates evolving into fish today? Why aren't fish growing little legs and so forth?

Q: Where else would you look for a transitional form?

A: In the fossil record. And here we have a problem of almost comparable magnitude. We find no fossils showing how the invertebrates evolved, or demonstrating that they came from a common ancestor. That's why you hear of the "Cambrian explosion." And while there are billions of fossils of both invertebrates and fish, fossils linking them are missing. Of course, there are some transitional fossils cited by evolutionists. However, two points about that. First, there should be a lot more if Darwin's theory is correct. Second, 99 percent of the biology of an organism is in its soft anatomy, which you cannot access in a fossil – this makes it easy to invest a fossil with a highly subjective opinion. The Piltdown Man and the recent Archaeoraptor are examples of how easy it is to be misled by preconceptions in this arena.

Q: What is the other place where you can look for transitional forms?

A: Microscopically, in the cell itself. Dr. Michael Denton, the Australian molecular biologist, examined these creatures on a molecular level and found no evidence whatsoever for the fish-amphibian-reptile-mammal sequence. He summarized his findings in his book "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis."

The last chapter is "Re-evaluating Some Evidences Used to Support the Theory" of evolution. That would include evidences that have been discredited, and also some evidences presented as proof that in fact rest on assumptions.

Q: What evidences have been discredited?

A: Ernst Haeckel's comparative embryo drawings. The human body being laden with "vestigial structures" from our animal past. Human blood and sea water having the same percentage of salt. Babies being born with "monkey tails." These are not foundational evidences, but they still hold sway in the public mind.

Q: You mentioned assumptions as proofs.

A: Yes. Anatomical similarities between men and animals are said to prove common ancestry. But intelligent design also results in innumerable similarities, as in the case of two makes of automobile. Also, what has been called "microevolution" – minor adaptive changes within a type of animal – is extrapolated as evidence for "macroevolution" – the changing of one kind of animal into another. However, a species is normally endowed with a rich gene pool that permits a certain amount of variation and adaptation. Certainly, those things happen. But the change is ordinarily limited to the confines of the gene pool. It doesn't mean a fish could adapt its way into being a human.

Q: You covered a lot of this ground in "Tornado in a Junkyard." Can readers expect something new from "The Case Against Darwin"?

A: There is a bit of new material, but no, if you've read "Tornado," or for that matter, if you read the July 2001 Whistleblower, where we looked at evolution, you already know most of the points. What's new is the size. This is a book to give to a busy friend, a book for a high-school student to share with his science teacher.

"The Case Against Darwin" by James Perloff is available from ShopNetDaily.


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To: Phaedrus
You:For you to accuse Dataman of dishonesty is a wholly unjustified slur that in fact reflects poorly upon your honesty.

me: BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! Oh, Phaedrus, you are such a scream!

You again: Honesty is not among the most important fundamental values? Bill Clinton couldn't have said it better.

Once again you demonstrate your total lack of a sense of humor or any shred of honesty on these threads. And you only mentioned your hero, Clinton? I'm surprised you didn't mention Hitler and Stalin again.

821 posted on 01/21/2003 1:14:09 PM PST by balrog666 (If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything - Mark Twain)
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To: ThinkPlease
might be interested placemarker.
822 posted on 01/21/2003 1:20:17 PM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: Dataman; RadioAstronomer; Physicist
Yes it is. That is why evolution isn't science.

We'll nail you guys every time you SAY you are scientific and then defend the theory for which there is no evidence.


That is EXACTLY WHY IT IS SCIENCE.

You creationists/IDe's kill me.

Evolution is not science, and is that your expert scientific opinion?

I didn't think so.

I hope you don't mind, but I will take the word of 99% of the scientists over a fundamentalist christian on that score, thanks for sharing your silly opinion though.

When you can convince say, 20% of scientists that your opinion is right, we'll talk again.

Until then, Sorry, but, I'll think you're a little loopy in the head.

in the meantime, let's get an ACTUAL scientific opinion. Shall we?

Physicist, radioastronomer, is evolution science, or is it religion, as little loopy head here claims?

Professional SCIENTIFIC opinions please.
823 posted on 01/21/2003 1:49:31 PM PST by Aric2000 (Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are religion, Any questions?)
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To: Aric2000
". . . but I will take the word of 99% of the scientists . . ."

So evolutionism comes with its own choirboys and you want to hear them sing. But the choir is not as big as you believe. Can a handful croaking swamp toads woo the sane world with their pitiful tune? Perhaps there is a theme song for swiss cheese. Give the swamp toads a few million more years and maybe they'll have something to croak about.

824 posted on 01/21/2003 2:01:07 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (It'll all come out in the wash.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
You creationists REALLY are a kick in the pants.

You have absolutely NO proof that creationism or ID occurred, you read it in a "holy" book and therefore it must be true.

Then, when a scientific theory comes along, that fits the known facts and evidence, and even tries to say if this is here, then we are missing something here, and that missing something is found, you still have the cahunas to call it faith, or a belief system?

Sorry, but when a theory makes a call for future findings and facts, and those findings and facts are found through study and research, that is called science. So sorry Chester, but your strawman looks like it's burning.

BADLY, thanks for playing though, wanna try again?
825 posted on 01/21/2003 2:11:24 PM PST by Aric2000 (Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are religion, Any questions?)
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To: Aric2000; Dataman
I reject the premise that science requires either facts or evidence.

For example, it is possible to calculate the fundamental magnetic charge of a magnetic monopole. In reality, no magnetic monopoles have ever been found; indeed, they may not even exist. Nevertheless, the value of the magnetic monopole charge is a scientific statement. It is testable in principle, even though in practice it has not been (and may not be).

Another example would be the Higgs particle and the technirho. If the Higgs does not exist, then the technirho must exist; if the Higgs does exist, there won't be a technirho particle. Searches are being conducted for both particles; rest assured that all of the physicists involved in both searches are "doing science", no matter how it turns out.

Evolution is a scientific theory whether there's evidence for it or not. The same may be said of Lamarckism. As luck would have it, there is overwhelming evidence for the former, and overwhelming evidence against the latter.
826 posted on 01/21/2003 2:13:13 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Aric2000
Fester, not chester, my bad, sorry bout that.
827 posted on 01/21/2003 2:19:40 PM PST by Aric2000 (Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are religion, Any questions?)
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To: Physicist
Thank you physicist, those particle thingies, did I get the technical term right? ;) sound fascinating, someday I would love to see one of those accelerators in person.

It'll be WAY over my head, but it sure LOOKS cool!! lol

Toys, BIG toys, my best Toolguy impression!! huhuhuhuhu
828 posted on 01/21/2003 2:25:11 PM PST by Aric2000 (Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are religion, Any questions?)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Alas, dear Doctor "Chugabrew," your cutesy folkism contains reference to a "Swamp Toad." There is no such thing. And frogs are much better croakers anyway, but why should we expect you to say anything containing a shred of science?

I do, however, find your mention of amphibian evolution intersting, as some amphibians are currently in a dire state, owing to many outside influences. As a complete aside, read this link and learn yourself a thing or two... Caution: Science Within! http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/aw/declines/declines.html
829 posted on 01/21/2003 2:34:25 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke
oh great, just noticed my link is from Berkeley. Now EVERYONE will jump down my throat! ; )
830 posted on 01/21/2003 2:35:39 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: Dan Day
They just haven't answered it in a way that is close enough to "my god, you're right!" for your tastes.

Heh-heh heh heh-heh. Cool. Heh-heh.

831 posted on 01/21/2003 2:38:00 PM PST by beavus ("If you play this stuff backwards, it says 'This sucks!'" Beavis & Butthead about INXS tune)
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To: Dan Day
"You obviously presume that if matter didn't "create itself", or "always existed", then the only option left was that "matter was created", *and* (your unspoken premise) that if it was indeed created, then it was created *by an intelligent deity*."

If you think matter and energy haven't always existed and you also think they were not created, then please tell me what alternatives you have in mind?

832 posted on 01/21/2003 2:42:10 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: general_re
Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.

Personally, I'm partial to callocs.

833 posted on 01/21/2003 2:45:26 PM PST by beavus (Voltaire had Candide, Judge has Beavis & Butthead.)
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To: Aric2000
"If you have a TRUE SCIENTIFIC theory that would compete with evolution for scientists attention, I will be the first one to say, GREAT, let's do it, because the students should be allowed to see competing SCIENTIFIC Theories."

I'm glad you are so open minded. Then you would not be opposed to information being presented which some say pokes holes in the theory of evolution - as long as it is scientific information, of course, right?

834 posted on 01/21/2003 2:46:56 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: beavus
Pfft. How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb?
835 posted on 01/21/2003 2:49:31 PM PST by general_re ( 43rd Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr .signature: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped)
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To: RadioAstronomer
"BTW, I do not "believe" in evolution. I accept the data that has been uncovered to date."

Ah, good. Then you accept that bones and fossils have been found, but you don't believe the assumptions made about them, because they are just that - assumptions. Right?

(crickets)

836 posted on 01/21/2003 2:50:13 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: f.Christian
Sounds like Liberal Classic has deciphered your code. I'm afraid I haven't.
837 posted on 01/21/2003 2:51:41 PM PST by beavus (Voltaire had Candide, Judge has Beavis & Butthead.)
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To: MEGoody
Then you would not be opposed to information being presented which some say pokes holes in the theory of evolution...

What did you have in mind?

838 posted on 01/21/2003 2:52:18 PM PST by general_re (Think green...burn only 100% recycled dinosaurs in your car.)
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To: whattajoke
"I'd like to ask you if you are truly curious, or just trolling."

If you have a logical answer, then I am truly curious.

839 posted on 01/21/2003 2:52:52 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: general_re
None. It isn't a software problem.
840 posted on 01/21/2003 2:52:53 PM PST by Nebullis
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