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Refuting Darwinism, point by point
WorldNetDaily,com ^ | 1-11-03 | Interview of James Perloff

Posted on 01/11/2003 9:53:34 PM PST by DWar

EVOLUTION WATCH Refuting Darwinism, point by point Author's new book presents case against theory in just 83 pages

Posted: January 11, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: In 1999, author James Perloff wrote the popular "Tornado in a Junkyard," which summarizes much of the evidence against evolution and is considered one of the most understandable (while still scientifically accurate) books on the subject. Recently, WND talked with Perloff about his new book, "The Case Against Darwin."

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

QUESTION: Your new book is just 83 pages – and the type is large. What gives?

ANSWER: This past March I got a call from Ohio. There has been a battle there to allow critical examination of evolutionary theory in public schools, and a gentleman wanted 40 copies of Tornado to give to state legislators and school board members. I was delighted to send him the books, but I also knew that a state legislator isn't likely to pick up anything that's 321 pages long.

Q: And not just state legislators.

A: Right. We live in an age when parents often don't have time to read anything long, and their kids, who are usually more into video, may not have the inclination.

Q: So what's the focus of this book?

A: I've divided it into three chapters. The first is called "Is Darwin's Theory Relevant to Our Lives?" In other words, is the subject of this book worth my time or not? A lot of people think this is simply a science issue. And to some of them, science is booooring. But actually, it's the teaching of Darwin's theory as a "fact" that starts many young people doubting the existence of God. Once we stop believing in God, we discard his moral laws and start making up our own rules, which is basically why our society is in so much trouble. In short, Darwinism is very relevant – it's much more than a science matter.

Q: You, yourself, were an atheist for many years, were you not, as a result of evolutionary teaching?

A: That's right. I thought evolution had discredited the Bible. In my books, I give examples of notables who became atheists from being taught evolution, such as Stalin and Carnegie. In fact, the atheist Boy Scout who's been in the news reportedly attributes his atheism to being taught evolution.

Q: Why do you think evolution has such a persuasively negative effect on faith?

A: First, it's taught as "scientific fact." When kids hear "scientific fact," they think "truth." Who wants to go against truth? Second, it's the only viewpoint that's taught. After the Supreme Court kicked God out of schools in the '60s, kids heard the evolutionist viewpoint exclusively. It's like going to a courtroom – if you only heard the prosecutor's summation, you would probably think the defendant guilty. But if you only heard the defendant's attorney, you'd think "innocent." The truth is, we need to hear both sides, and kids haven't been getting it on the subject of origins.

Q: OK, then what?

A: The second chapter is "Evidence Against the Theory of Evolution." Let's face it, no matter what Darwinism's social ramifications, that alone would not be a sufficient basis to criticize it, if it were scientifically proven true.

Q: In a nutshell – if that's possible – what is the scientific evidence against Darwinism?

A: In the book, I focus on six areas of evidence. First, mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information – even in the rare cases of beneficial mutations, such as bacterial resistance to antibiotics. That has been laid out by Dr. Lee Spetner in his book "Not By Chance."

Q: What else?

A: Second, cells are now known to be far too complex to have originated by some chance concurrence of chemicals, as Darwin hypothesized and is still being claimed. We detail that in the book. Third, the human body has systems, such as blood clotting and the immune system, that are, in the words of biochemist Michael Behe, "irreducibly complex," meaning they cannot have evolved step-by-step. Behe articulated that in his book "Darwin's Black Box." And then there is the whole issue of transitional forms.

Q: What is a transitional form?

A: Darwin's theory envisioned that single-celled ancestors evolved into invertebrates (creatures without a backbone), who evolved into fish, who evolved into amphibians, who evolved into reptiles, who evolved into mammals. Now, a transitional form would be a creature intermediate between these. There would have to be a great many for Darwin's theory to be true.

Q: Are there?

A: There are three places to look for transitional forms. First, there's the living world around us. We see that it is distinctly divided – you have invertebrates, fish, amphibians, reptiles and mammals. But we don't see transitionals between them. If these creatures ever existed, why did none survive? It is too easy to explain it away by saying they all became extinct. And of course, there is the question: Why aren't these creatures evolving into each other today? Why aren't invertebrates evolving into fish today? Why aren't fish growing little legs and so forth?

Q: Where else would you look for a transitional form?

A: In the fossil record. And here we have a problem of almost comparable magnitude. We find no fossils showing how the invertebrates evolved, or demonstrating that they came from a common ancestor. That's why you hear of the "Cambrian explosion." And while there are billions of fossils of both invertebrates and fish, fossils linking them are missing. Of course, there are some transitional fossils cited by evolutionists. However, two points about that. First, there should be a lot more if Darwin's theory is correct. Second, 99 percent of the biology of an organism is in its soft anatomy, which you cannot access in a fossil – this makes it easy to invest a fossil with a highly subjective opinion. The Piltdown Man and the recent Archaeoraptor are examples of how easy it is to be misled by preconceptions in this arena.

Q: What is the other place where you can look for transitional forms?

A: Microscopically, in the cell itself. Dr. Michael Denton, the Australian molecular biologist, examined these creatures on a molecular level and found no evidence whatsoever for the fish-amphibian-reptile-mammal sequence. He summarized his findings in his book "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis."

The last chapter is "Re-evaluating Some Evidences Used to Support the Theory" of evolution. That would include evidences that have been discredited, and also some evidences presented as proof that in fact rest on assumptions.

Q: What evidences have been discredited?

A: Ernst Haeckel's comparative embryo drawings. The human body being laden with "vestigial structures" from our animal past. Human blood and sea water having the same percentage of salt. Babies being born with "monkey tails." These are not foundational evidences, but they still hold sway in the public mind.

Q: You mentioned assumptions as proofs.

A: Yes. Anatomical similarities between men and animals are said to prove common ancestry. But intelligent design also results in innumerable similarities, as in the case of two makes of automobile. Also, what has been called "microevolution" – minor adaptive changes within a type of animal – is extrapolated as evidence for "macroevolution" – the changing of one kind of animal into another. However, a species is normally endowed with a rich gene pool that permits a certain amount of variation and adaptation. Certainly, those things happen. But the change is ordinarily limited to the confines of the gene pool. It doesn't mean a fish could adapt its way into being a human.

Q: You covered a lot of this ground in "Tornado in a Junkyard." Can readers expect something new from "The Case Against Darwin"?

A: There is a bit of new material, but no, if you've read "Tornado," or for that matter, if you read the July 2001 Whistleblower, where we looked at evolution, you already know most of the points. What's new is the size. This is a book to give to a busy friend, a book for a high-school student to share with his science teacher.

"The Case Against Darwin" by James Perloff is available from ShopNetDaily.


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To: balrog666
Just calling evolution a theory is an overstatement . . . only an idea // mood // feeling - - - an ideology // oddity ! ! !


801 posted on 01/21/2003 10:07:07 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: Aric2000
Science is about facts, and evidence.

Yes it is. That is why evolution isn't science.

We'll nail you guys every time you SAY you are scientific and then defend the theory for which there is no evidence.

802 posted on 01/21/2003 10:12:15 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Dan Day
You obviously presume that if matter didn't "create itself", or "always existed", then the only option left was that "matter was created", *and* (your unspoken premise) that if it was indeed created, then it was created *by an intelligent deity*.

Of course, it's also funny that they then assume that it was their deity and not someone else's or the Flute-Playing Locust or the Trickster Coyote or the little pink unicorns or ...

803 posted on 01/21/2003 10:12:32 AM PST by balrog666 (If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything - Mark Twain)
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To: whattajoke
Philosophical? 4-5 billion humans today say, "nope."

And the evidence for such a statement? I thought so. Regardless, if popularity were the indicator of truth, the sun would actually revolve around the earth.

Metaphysical? you win that one, as science stays away from all things metaphysical.

Science only claims it stays away. Perhaps you deny that the concept of eternal when applied to matter is not in the realm of the metaphysical. Perhaps quintillions of stars pressed into the size of an atom is hard science. And maybe even the mythical dark matter has been studied under a microscope. Naa. Science stays away from the metaphysical... when convenient.

Evidential? Again, the Genesis account fails rather miserably.

This seems to be a unit of information that most of you have not been able to absorb: Evolution is a Swiss cheese theory regardless of Genesis. Evolution ain't science regardless of Genesis. Evolution defies logic regardless of Genesis.

804 posted on 01/21/2003 10:20:50 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Phaedrus
For you to accuse Dataman of dishonesty is a wholly unjustified slur that in fact reflects poorly upon your honesty.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! Oh, Phaedrus, you are such a scream!

805 posted on 01/21/2003 10:27:42 AM PST by balrog666 (If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything - Mark Twain)
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To: Dataman
And the evidence for such a statement [4-5 billion humans don't subscribe to the genesis story]?

Ok, my numbers may be off by a relative few, but you can hardly argue the billions of non Jews and non Christian would have "philosophical" differences with the genesis account.

Your "metaphysics" retort is curious. Again I must point out to you a bit of basic biology: Evolution (the subject of this thread) does not deal with dark matter, eternity, or the big bang. I am not an expert in physics or astronomy, nor do I pretend to be. There is "theoretical physics" and there is "metaphysics." Learn the difference.

Evolution is a Swiss cheese theory regardless of Genesis. Evolution ain't science regardless of Genesis. Evolution defies logic regardless of Genesis.

I, too, am still trying to decipher Abacab, and as for Susudio... I've given up. Anyway, for a "swiss cheese theory" it is certainly doing a fantastic job standing up to the fringe nuts such as yourself.
806 posted on 01/21/2003 10:35:00 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke
...and as for Susudio... I've given up.

Just say the word, ohhhhh ;)

807 posted on 01/21/2003 10:45:29 AM PST by general_re (Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.)
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To: whattajoke
Evolution is a retro theory . . . implant - - - stepford science // lies ! ! !
808 posted on 01/21/2003 10:58:02 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: jlogajan
Well, some people have faith in God, some people have faith that a series of mutations (nature's 'miscalculations') kept happening until something good came of it. Then that something good had to wait around until another something good came from more mutations, and so on and so on.

Belief in either is a choice, because neither position is supported by incontrovertible proof.

By the way, I've always wondered - if evolution is supposedly true, why don't we have more 'varieties' of humans, e.g. some with arms that reach nearly to their ankles, some with only one eye in the middle of their forehead and so on. Strange we don't find bones and fossils of such things either.

809 posted on 01/21/2003 11:11:42 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: RadioAstronomer
"I do not 'believe' in evolution. I accept the data that has been uncovered to date."

I guess that makes two of us.

810 posted on 01/21/2003 11:11:56 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (It'll all come out in the wash.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Good! I am sorry if I offended you earlier. :-(
811 posted on 01/21/2003 11:13:49 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
unfortunately, RA, Fester is an unabashed creationist and was using irony in his post, I believe.
812 posted on 01/21/2003 11:29:48 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: MEGoody
By the way, I've always wondered - if evolution is supposedly true, why don't we have more 'varieties' of humans, e.g. some with arms that reach nearly to their ankles, some with only one eye in the middle of their forehead and so on. Strange we don't find bones and fossils of such things either.

See, I think creationists like MEGoody who post stuff like this are well meaning and would be willing to learn some new things. That's why I don't demean posts like this. Gore3K, however, knowingly posts lies and twists words of others to further his cause.

Instead of explaining to you why we don't have oddly armed humans, or 3 eyed folk running around (let alone fossils of these anomalies), I'd like to ask you if you are truly curious, or just trolling.
813 posted on 01/21/2003 11:34:30 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: DWar
"..........First, mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information..........."

Wrong...............they do!

Author shows his ignorance for the basics of genetic theory and therefore invalidates his arguements.

814 posted on 01/21/2003 11:36:34 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Useful Idiots Abound.)
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To: DoctorMichael
We (( conservatives )) pretty much know the last hurrah of liberal (( 3rd way )) // socialists will be evolution // gaia ! ! !
815 posted on 01/21/2003 11:47:42 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: beavus
To: f.Christian

Dakmar...

I took a few minutes to decipher that post, and I must say I agree with a lot of what you said.

fC...

These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Dakmar...

Where you and I diverge is on the Evolution/Communism thing. You seem to view Darwin and evolution as the beginning of the end for enlighted, moral civilization, while I think Marx, class struggle, and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" are the true dangers.

God bless you, I think we both have a common enemy in the BRAVE-NWO.

452 posted on 9/7/02 8:54 PM Pacific by Dakmar

816 posted on 01/21/2003 11:55:43 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: beavus
Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin America---the post-modern evo fascist expert age . . .


To: f.Christian

Now I follow, thank you. Actually, I don't disagree with this at all since I see the left as abandoning the uncertianty of democracy and majority rule for the assurance technocracy and expert rule.

152 posted on 9/10/02 12:17 PM Pacific by Liberal Classic


817 posted on 01/21/2003 12:01:47 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: DWar
As long as nuts go to Bagdad as "Human" shields Darwinism will be a good theory
818 posted on 01/21/2003 12:04:36 PM PST by Diana Rose (4GOT10)
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To: f.Christian
Simple evolution . . . in the post industrial age there is no working class to pander // exploit - - - presto // evobotniks will 'rule' // reproduce ! ! !
819 posted on 01/21/2003 12:06:05 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: balrog666
Honesty is not among the most important fundamental values? Bill Clinton couldn't have said it better.
820 posted on 01/21/2003 12:54:19 PM PST by Phaedrus
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