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TALE OF TWO LAWERS (Feldmand vs. Dusek) DEFEATED and DECIETFUL.(VD's SKATE FREE TO SWING AGAIN)
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Posted on 08/22/2002 11:32:19 PM PDT by FresnoDA

TALE OF TWO LAWYERS......

Defense lawyer Steven Feldman enters the Hall of Justice in San Diego Wednesday Aug. 21, 2002 to hear the verdict of his client David Westerfield. Westerfield was found guilty of kidnapping and murdering Danielle van Dam. (AP Photo/Ric Francis)Prosecutor Jeff Dusek enters the San Diego Hall of Justice Wednesday Aug. 21, 2002 to hear the verdict in the murder and kidnapping trial of David Westerfield.. Westerfield was found guilty of the kidnapping and murder of Danielle van Dam. (AP Photo/Ric Francis)

DEFEATED and DECIETFUL



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To: Yeti
After reading a lot of the transcripts you could put together a lot of ideas.

They found a .22 caliber shell casing in Danielle's room.
There was blood at the top of the stairs, and on the garage door,
and drag marks out side the same door.
I haven't gotten to the analyses of all the samples taken yet.

I am not saying this is what happened just so many different things could have happened that night.

1,361 posted on 08/27/2002 4:41:24 PM PDT by just me
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To: The Other Harry
Are you aware of any criticisms or professional discussions that you could point me to? If it could be argued that it isn't necessarily all that definitive, I'd like to learn about that.

I don't know where to tell you to look, but I can offer you this tidbit -- one problem is that you often get multiple conflicting diagnoses for the same subject, based on the subject's symptoms and the criteria in the book.

1,362 posted on 08/27/2002 5:00:47 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
. Just like they planted his fingerprint in her bedroom!

Yeti, DW's print was NOT found in Danielle's BR. As a matter of fact, NONE of his prints or DNA were found at VD home.

1,363 posted on 08/27/2002 5:04:13 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: Yeti
I'd like to take issue about one thing from your post about psychologists. My son has one (also a psychiatrist for meds-not ADHD it's because he's a little asskicker) This psychologist is great, he works with all of us, the two kids and I. Psychologists find solutions to what is making you behave the way you do, this is just one example.

Note to trolls: Don't flame me on this one, I won't respond because anything you all could say to this is a joke compared to the last 13 years :)))))
1,364 posted on 08/27/2002 5:32:41 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl
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To: Yeti
Doggie nosebleeds. My cats have careened around the corner and hit my shins hard enough to leave a lump. No nosebleeds. Maybe my cats are tougher than Layla...

Someone's been beating that dog.
1,365 posted on 08/27/2002 5:38:05 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl
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To: Yeti
LE plant -- plain and simple. Just like they planted his fingerprint in her bedroom!

  I think you've got that one wrong. There were no fingerprints of DW in Danielle's room, or indeed, in the entire house. There was a fingerprint of Danielle in DW's motor home, and since it was found late in the investigation, there has been speculation that it was a plant.

  Was that what you meant?

Drew Garrett

1,366 posted on 08/27/2002 5:39:46 PM PDT by agarrett
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To: bvw
Two months longer undiagnosed and I would have died -- almost did anyway. Very very close.

Thank goodness for good shrinks, nice to hear things worked out well for you.

1,367 posted on 08/27/2002 5:40:23 PM PDT by vacrn
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To: TheSpottedOwl
To: Spotted Owl

RE: To: Yeti

I'd like to take issue about one thing from your post about psychologists.
1364 posted on 8/27/02 7:32 PM Central by TheSpottedOwl

Spotted Owl, I sure took at LEAST one issue by Yeti's post!

LOL!

For one thing, the two psychiatrists that I've personally known were both loonier than ...........!

And the two psychologists that I've worked with for more than a few years are mentally stable.
1,368 posted on 08/27/2002 6:12:29 PM PDT by JLO
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To: agarrett
Ok, ok.

I was being silly. He didn't steam clean his MH either. And the bleach-washing allegation was not in the trial, that I recall.

It's just that in the post to which I was replying, the poster said some things like that.

1,369 posted on 08/27/2002 6:31:03 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: The Other Harry
"Time to go to the vet. As in, now! Those things can be fatal. They will climb right up into the sinuses and kill the dog.

But other than that, I have never seen a dog develop a nose-bleed. I've never heard of it happening. That just sounds very strange."

I agree Other Harry. Very strange indeed a dog having a nosebleed. I've had dogs and cats for 40 years and have never seen one.

Your post about your dog getting into something, up his nose reminded me about my Irish Setter getting a nosefull a porquipine quills. I don't recall very much blood, though.

And this is odd/different vet's remedy at the time (1970 or so) - any quills we couldn't pull out...leave them, they'll work themselves out through the head.

Yikes!! Now I think about how dangerous that was - not going through his brain. But it worked! They spiked out on the top of his head later. Maybe barbed objects follow the skull???

JLO

1,370 posted on 08/27/2002 6:31:48 PM PDT by JLO
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To: TheSpottedOwl
This psychologist is great, he works with all of us, the two kids and I. Psychologists find solutions to what is making you behave the way you do, this is just one example.

I know that a talented counsellor could be a psychologist. I was talking about the professions comparatively.

1,371 posted on 08/27/2002 6:38:03 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: agarrett
There was a fingerprint of Danielle in DW's motor home, and since it was found late in the investigation,

February 8 is "late in the investigation"?

1,372 posted on 08/27/2002 6:39:13 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: JLO
And the two psychologists that I've worked with for more than a few years are mentally stable.

Just what they wanted you to think ; )

1,373 posted on 08/27/2002 6:45:57 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: cyncooper
February 8 is "late in the investigation"?

Actually, yes. In this investigation. When were the warrants issued?

1,374 posted on 08/27/2002 6:48:18 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: agarrett
How do you plant a fingerprint from someone who is already dead?
1,375 posted on 08/27/2002 6:52:03 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Yeti
Actually, I didn't. That was an allegation made by someone who said it so much they believed it. :)
1,376 posted on 08/27/2002 6:52:09 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Yeti
Scratch my last post.... Fergit about it. I misread something.
1,377 posted on 08/27/2002 6:54:21 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Ditter
How do you plant a fingerprint from someone who is already dead?

Rather, the question is, how do you plant a fingerprint when it is found weeks *before* the body was found.

1,378 posted on 08/27/2002 6:55:13 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Yeti
"I don't know where to tell you to look, but I can offer you this tidbit -- one problem is that you often get multiple conflicting diagnoses for the same subject, based on the subject's symptoms and the criteria in the book."

That is correct. I heard about some studies like that..done on prison inmates. Some inmates were supposedly NOT mentally ill but yet were diagnosed with an illness and visa versa. The little con artists... (not just the inmates either)

1,379 posted on 08/27/2002 6:57:01 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Interesting letter about Danielle on jamieson's forum.

http://www.webbsleuths.com/dcf/van_Dam/117.html

1,380 posted on 08/27/2002 6:58:19 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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