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Walmart ruining holidays for workers
vanity | November 13, 2011 | Linda Martine

Posted on 11/13/2011 11:06:23 AM PST by eccentric

Around the country, night workers at Walmart stores are being told to come in five hours early ON Thanksgiving. After having work until 7am that morning, they must get whatever sleep they can and then reutrn to work at 5pm for a 12 hour shift. How much time does this leave for them to spend the holiday with their family?

Walmart wants to call their employees associates. No, they are just workers.


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KEYWORDS: blackfriday; collapse; prepare; retailers; shtf; teotwawki; walmart
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To: netmilsmom

If one does not want to do anything out of the ordinary or “it’s not my job” comes out of a mouth, that is not a person who will be happy at Walmart./

This whole thing began because I said there was no overtime at walmart in post #13.

“It’s not my job”. I have never said it’s not my job. I do as I am told. I cashier, I zone, I work on the floor helping customers, and I also act as greeter when they are short of people covering that area.

As for making it at walmart. I know a few people that have made it because they squealed on other people. They acted concerned about the employees problem and immediately went to management and snitched. If you call that making it, then so be it. Funny thing is, the snitches talked worse about management than anyone, but not one person went and told on them, not one. Management has their favorites..

I do my job and go home. I am not there for a friendship or one upman contest.

Maybe that’s you and Mardi59.


401 posted on 11/13/2011 9:48:20 PM PST by mardi59
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To: eccentric

When I was a store manager at a major drug store chain, I worked Christmas, New Year’s, Thanksgiving, etc.

It’s part of the job.

It sucked. So, let me tell you what I did. I found another job that didn’t require that I work on holidays.


402 posted on 11/14/2011 12:15:48 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: narses; eccentric

Our troops are working on Thanksgiving, fyi.


403 posted on 11/14/2011 12:20:54 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: eccentric; narses

I think I’m going to send Walmart a note that thanks them for employing people.


404 posted on 11/14/2011 12:22:57 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: narses; dennisw

Is DW being a troll? How terrible ... Not liking Walmart, hmmmm ...

I’ll tell you something, a while back DW was also being dreadful about Sarah Palin, and was saying all along she was not running, and would be, indeed, the greatest no-show in US politics. Those posts made lots of forums members mad with fury.

However, he was right about Palin, and who knows, maybe Walmart is also worthy of critique.


405 posted on 11/14/2011 1:23:40 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Jonty30
Companies like Wal-mart use software that keeps track of hours, to minimize the chance somebody will get overtime pay, but still comply with the labour laws. So, unless it is an unusual situation, the chances of getting overtime pay is between slim and none.

As far as writing up employees for not clocking out at exactly the end of their shift and getting a few minutes overtime, I’m sure Wal-mart or somebody lost a big case to the labour board and it cost the company big bucks.

The availability of overtime hours is not a right. And many if not most companies, retails and other employers like manufacturers, have rules regarding clocking out in a timely fashion at the end of your shift. Most time clocks have a rounding mechanism, usually anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes on either side of a shift punch. Where I work, we allow for overtime if it is approved by the shift manager. If an employee is constantly punching out late without a legitimate reason for punching out late, they will be written up and terminated if it continues.

406 posted on 11/14/2011 2:52:36 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Up here in Canada, Safeway, has an agreement with the union that whomever works 13 straight weeks of 40 hours a week, has to be bumped up to full-time on a permanent basis.

So, anybody who has gone 12 weeks at 40 hours/week, they get red flagged by the computer, so Safeway can knock their hours down that week so they don’t qualify.


407 posted on 11/14/2011 3:06:31 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: mardi59

>>I know a few people that have made it because they squealed on other people. <<

I know many people who made it at Walmart because they were hard workers and got the job done. It was the job that everyone wanted in my niece’s group.

People are people everywhere, there are good and bad.
I keep telling you, you are not exceptional nor is Walmart. Good or bad.


408 posted on 11/14/2011 4:10:06 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: BlackVeil

Thanks much BV for backing me up. Looks like Walmart will not open stores in Australia. Must be afraid the local stores will beat them


409 posted on 11/14/2011 5:34:45 AM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing. What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-- Sting)
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To: Timber Rattler

Oh I don’t doubt that at all. Not many employees know about that law (and some employers as well) Texas has had that law for a long time now but a lot of employers get away with it because the employee is afraid of losing a job and doesn’t complain. They can’t fire you for that but they have “ways” of doing it without getting in trouble.


410 posted on 11/14/2011 5:47:42 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: netmilsmom

I keep telling you, you are not exceptional /

The feeling is mutual. You finally found something we can agree on.


411 posted on 11/14/2011 5:52:22 AM PST by mardi59
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To: eccentric

couple of points:
A lot of people haven’t worked in three years or so.

A lot of people work seven days a week in order to keep their businesses going or by working more that one job to keep the wolf from the door.

Outside of Walmart, the world is quite brutal particularly if you don’t have a college degree.

Be grateful for the job.


412 posted on 11/14/2011 7:16:42 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: paulist; Truth29; Delta 21; rjsclassics; E. Pluribus Unum; dfwgator; UriÂ’el-2012; ...
After all your encouragemnet, I was just about to quit --- and then I remembered "I'm not talking about my job. I was referring to freinds of mine." Yes, those pathetic uneducated losers who got a job at Wal-Mart years ago when it was more 'family-friendly.' They started at minimum wage, often moving to the night shift just for an extra dollar an hour. Now that they have worked themselves up to a living wage, Walmart changes it policy and and all the old rules. I guess these workers deserve to be told to work 16 hours on a hoilday by corporate bosses. The better educated people know that a worker will be very reluctant to leave a job after years of steady employment and start over somwhere else at minimum wage.

Working Black Thursday doesn't bother me, my idea of Thanksgiving dinner is a pizza, but these poor schlubs from the Walmart backroom had plans and I thought I would speak up for them. I'll just tell them to 'put some ice on it." In the meantime, I cannot be proud of a company that treats its workers this way and I wouldn't encourage anyone to get a job there --- well, except for you unemployed guys. Yes, Walmart is hiring and if you can't get a job there, you must really be losers! You gotta study harder for those drug tests.

413 posted on 11/14/2011 7:19:01 AM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: eccentric
After all your encouragemnet, I was just about to quit --- and then I remembered "I'm not talking about my job. I was referring to freinds of mine."

Why, of course.

You aren't worried about yourself.

You are worried about all those other people.

You lying, narcissistic union goon.

414 posted on 11/14/2011 7:27:05 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.<sup>®</sup>)
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To: eccentric
Whether or not it was your job is irrelevant, working a holiday is practiced by millions of people every holiday and everyone of them can quit if they don't like it. Only an idiot would get a job in retail and think they wouldn't be working on one of the biggest retail sales day of the year.You do know Wal-mart closes on Christmas day. unlike thousands of other retailers!! Oh! and by the way genius I'm sixty four years old and retired and worked numerous holidays including Christmas day and never complained about it!!
415 posted on 11/14/2011 7:28:08 AM PST by ontap
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To: eccentric

With that attitude, it is a wonder that you post here at all. I see troll codewords. Living wage? for unskilled labor? Stockboy is not a winning career choice unless you have your sights on being stockroom manager and beyond.


416 posted on 11/14/2011 7:30:29 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: Timber Rattler

You can work ten straight days and legally not receive overtime!!


417 posted on 11/14/2011 7:31:15 AM PST by ontap
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To: eccentric

It’s a shame your friends’ careers in retail didn’t work out as hoped.


418 posted on 11/14/2011 7:38:18 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Ah, the old Hope-a-Dope.)
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To: eccentric

“living wage”: Language right out of the union handbook. WalMart is not hiring in most markets. They are doing what any company who is gonna survive the current Depression is doing: More with less. You ever run a business (a successful one)? Please provide proof that Walmart is making someone work a 16 hour shift. You can’t, because their scheduling computer will not allow them to schedule anyone for more than a standard pre-scheduled shift.
You sound like an idealistic little progressive union organizer attacking the evil corporation.


419 posted on 11/14/2011 7:39:16 AM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: BlackVeil

What on earth does one haqve to do with the other?


420 posted on 11/14/2011 7:39:25 AM PST by ontap
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