Posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:54 AM PST by trumandogz
The Civil War is about to loom very large in the popular memory. We would do well to be candid about its causes and not allow the distortions of contemporary politics or long-standing myths to cloud our understanding of why the nation fell apart.
The coming year will mark the 150th anniversary of the onset of the conflict, which is usually dated to April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire at 4:30 a.m. on federal troops occupying Fort Sumter. Union forces surrendered the next day, after 34 hours of shelling.
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More likely it is evidence that Mr. Lincoln and his coven, which you are apparently a member in good standing, wanted, intended to have, and determined to incite WAR and The LAW be damned!
In saving the Union, I have destroyed the republic. Before me I have the Confederacy which I loathe. But behind me I have bankers which I fear.
Abraham Lincoln comment on the National Bank Act, February 1863
Progressive “concern trolls” that know how to cut and paste are of no benefit to FR. They belong in DU and Kos and JR made that quite clear.
Was he supportive of homosexuality?
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Yes and supportive of every progressive agenda since he arrived in . Past posts are a b*tch. You can try to hide by posting a lot but they are there for all to see.
Was he supportive of homosexuality?
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Yes and supportive of every progressive agenda since he arrived in 2001. Past posts are a b*tch. You can try to hide by posting a lot but they are there for all to see.
What happened to stand Watie? Didn’t anyone have an email address for him? It’s always good to exchange email addresses with FReepers that you like, just in case they disappear on FR or FR disappears courtesy of the Obongo mafia crew.
I think that there they will find the smoking gun that killed a million people and the Framers’ noble American Experiment, and supplanted it with a banker’s paradise of imperial, centralized, centripetal, gradually totalitarianizing government.
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Oh yea, that’s working out real well. LMAO!
New Englanders might have had to turn to the sea for a living in some cases .... not that their crops were dying in the fields as it was. New Englanders grew up on home-grown lentils (a better diet, btw, it's been pointed out in an American history course, than that of Southerners who lived on cornbread, ham, and bacon -- and soft water, which denied them an important source of minerals -- leading to shorter life expectancies).
But the South didn't lack for world-class estuarine anchorages (Norfolk, Charleston, Savannah, Jacksonville -- not during the colonial period, of course -- and the Carolina sounds), and timber interests logged enormous trees out of the areas around Great Smoky for over a century -- I'm talking about hickory logs eight and nine feet in diameter. (There's a house at Great Smoky National Park built of logs that big. Some "log cabin"!)
Rhett specifically charges undercutting, but he doesn't give details. I've seen another early-20th-century source that accused New England of capturing the cotton trade after the Civil War. I have a copy of it "somewhere" on media. If both charges are true, that would be enough to establish a "pattern and practice" of commercial predation by Northern mercantile interests. By what mechanisms, I'd like to know, if it's true at all and not just a bunch of crying by runners-up.
In what way do you mean?
NEW TROLL
Apparently it was, since Madison was among those who seemed to disagree with it.
The salient point is that this black unit existed. In arms.
“What happened to Stand Watie?”
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He just vanished one day - a little over a year ago.
Why then were Texas, Virginia and Mississippi not able to participate in the 1868 election? Was the readmission of the congressional delegations a prerequisite for their electoral votes to count?
He got caught
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The first 3 words are all that you needed in that post.
"Sovereign" means "sovereign". "Reserved powers" are reserved -- and so stipulated by the Tenth Amendment, which was the make-or-break amendment for ratification of the Constitution in the first place (thus constitutional historians).
No, Ohio does not get to tell Massachusetts they can't secede from the Union and start their own country with five or six other States (in fact, I wish they would).
Secession did not impair in any way the continued enjoyment by the other States of their advantages in the Union. What it potentially meant was that rather less cotton money would stick to Yankee paws. That's why the Yankees went to war -- money! Their highest principle <spit>.
What part of that quote are you taking issue with? He's saying nothing that all Southerners and most Northerners of the time didn't agree with.
Lincoln Acknowledged The Right To Succeed...
Are you, perhaps, referring to a right to secede? If so then actually no, he didn't. Fifteenth paragraph:
"I hold that in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual. Perpetuity is implied, if not expressed, in the fundamental law of all national governments. It is safe to assert that no government proper ever had a provision in its organic law for its own termination. Continue to execute all the express provisions of our National Constitution, and the Union will endure forever, it being impossible to destroy it except by some action not provided for in the instrument itself."
Nineteenth paragraph:
"It follows from these views that no State upon its own mere motion can lawfully get out of the Union; that resolves and ordinances to that effect are legally void, and that acts of violence within any State or States against the authority of the United States are insurrectionary or revolutionary, according to circumstances."
Twentieth paragraph:
"I therefore consider that in view of the Constitution and the laws the Union is unbroken, and to the extent of my ability, I shall take care, as the Constitution itself expressly enjoins upon me, that the laws of the Union be faithfully executed in all the States. Doing this I deem to be only a simple duty on my part, and I shall perform it so far as practicable unless my rightful masters, the American people, shall withhold the requisite means or in some authoritative manner direct the contrary. I trust this will not be regarded as a menace, but only as the declared purpose of the Union that it will constitutionally defend and maintain itself."
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