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Don't spin the Civil War
Washington Post ^ | 12.27.10 | E.J. DIONNE jR.

Posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:54 AM PST by trumandogz

The Civil War is about to loom very large in the popular memory. We would do well to be candid about its causes and not allow the distortions of contemporary politics or long-standing myths to cloud our understanding of why the nation fell apart.

The coming year will mark the 150th anniversary of the onset of the conflict, which is usually dated to April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire at 4:30 a.m. on federal troops occupying Fort Sumter. Union forces surrendered the next day, after 34 hours of shelling.

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To: Thumper1960
It isn't a stretch to imagine seeing someone like you dressed in muslim garb and dancing in the streets of Rahmallah, celebrating 9/11.

Although I think Booth made a martyr of the Goon, which was a bad thing and ultimately led to that 10000 sq ft greco-roman temple to the devil on the National Mall, comparing my ancestors to Muslim extremists is WAY out of line.

1,001 posted on 01/03/2011 4:24:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dixiechick2000
Why don’t you post something about yourself, and fly your state flag on your homepage so that we can get to know you a little better? It surely would be helpful.

Doing that might be a non-sequitur.

1,002 posted on 01/03/2011 4:25:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Abin Sur
That's correct, the vast majority of Americans don't use the word except in jokes. Why is this so hard to understand?

You just tell us how you want us to act, noobie, and I'm sure that we'll all fall in line. /sarc

I only started back in the '80s on the Usenet.

Wow! Did you and AlGore invent the internet together?!?

BTW, I checked your brief posting history here on FR. It would appear that you are a proud atheist. Is that correct? If so, how do you reconcile our God given rights with your belief that there is no God?

1,003 posted on 01/03/2011 5:46:05 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: rockrr
I didn't see a need pokie. Unlike you, Albin Sur has already shown that he is capable of thinking for himself.

Hardly, punkrr. He sounds just like another Coven clone to me.

BTW, I've noticed a drastic change in your posting style since the departure of NS. It used to be all snarky one liners followed by the girlish LOL. Now, it looks like you've stepped in to take over for NS or perhaps your are NS......

1,004 posted on 01/03/2011 5:51:16 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: mstar
was from the state of Georgia just like you say you are.

Good catch, mstar. I wonder if, like his mentor rockrr, abin sur will eventually claim to have been born and raised in multiple Southern states?

1,005 posted on 01/03/2011 5:54:16 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Thumper1960
Actually, not. Back then, those “leftist” demoncrat politicians were considered useful idiots. They were considered not far enough left to be of great service to the “cause”.

You and your band of marxist comrades, out protesting and starting trouble, were the useful idiots for those in power and it would appear that, even though you're not very useful, you're still an idiot.

You’ve got a lot to learn about the evils of Marxist Socialism.

Are you of the opinion that a person has to practice marxism in order to understand that the system is evil? (((shaking head)))

BTW, are you an atheist like abin sur, rockrr and the rest of the damnyankees?

1,006 posted on 01/03/2011 6:05:47 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Thumper1960
You are a joke. What little credibility you may have had is gone with that posting of utter stupidity, paranoia and slander.

Oooo, it appears that I've struck a nerve with you and your comrades so you and your comrades go straight to the Rules for Radicals. Tsk, tsk. Won't work here, grumper.

If you don't think that there aren't paid provocateurs on the internet then you're either incredibly stupid or incredibility naive.

Real cowboys ride horses. The closest you've come to the occupation is being the horse's posterior.

Wow. How far away can we be from a brokeback mountain comment?

1,007 posted on 01/03/2011 6:21:36 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: MikefromOhio
You are every bad stereotype of a southerner rolled into one, you know that?

Could you be more specific?

BTW, Southerner is spelled with a capital S. You got that, boy?

Way to give our enemies ammo stupid.

It's obvious that you're hurtin real bad since NS/Drennen Whyte were banned. And it's obvious that you and the coven have intensified your clumsy attempts to get one or all of us Rebs banned in retaliation.

But I've got a suggestion: instead of these blunt little attempts to elicit a bannable reply, why don't you make your appeal straight to Jim Rob? In other words, be a man and do it out here in the open.

1,008 posted on 01/03/2011 6:31:16 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: TexConfederate1861

Translation: “Oooopppsss.....I’m gonna ignore what I posted and hope the thrill I get on Lincoln’s murder goes away.”

Good move, Tex, just scurry away and toss some ad hominems as a smokescreen.


1,009 posted on 01/03/2011 6:35:53 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: central_va

Laughing at you.

You have noooo idea how conservative I am. Much more so than thou, there can be no doubt.


1,010 posted on 01/03/2011 6:37:52 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Ditto
So I can pick any thread and find someone calling you a fagot?

Noooo, not specifically me but on almost every thread one of you guys will start the homosexual innuendos. Almost every time.

Now why don't we get over this name calling crap

Just more Yosemite Sam type bluster from you I see.

Perhaps you should take your own advice, ditto.

1,011 posted on 01/03/2011 6:39:13 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: central_va

You ignore the point.

Painful realizations can do that. The war’s over. It’s been over for decades. The nation grew and healed. Get over it. Your longing for a system that was unsustainable and which would have ultimately fallen and petitioned for re-admittance is empty nostalgia.


1,012 posted on 01/03/2011 6:42:34 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Thumper1960
Isn’t it rich to be called a bigot by secessionists who fought to keep Black slaves for their own economic benefit?

Wow! Did you discover a worm hole to the past and actually come face to face with a rich bigoted secessionists who fought to keep black slaves for economic purposes?!?

Do you realize how utterly stupid you sound? But, of course, you were a marxist pig.........Nevermind........

1,013 posted on 01/03/2011 6:44:53 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway

Since you’ve never been there, no, you are not likely to fully comprehend the ways in which the “movement” operates.

As for my religious/spiritual beliefs...what of them? I am a believer and follower of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The realized and concrete Son of the Creator.

Do YOU have a problem with that???????


1,014 posted on 01/03/2011 6:46:05 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Thumper1960
Your longing for a system

Exactly, I long for the republic that out founders created and the Goon started to destroy. You wouldn't know a republic if it bit you on the arse.

1,015 posted on 01/03/2011 6:51:06 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cowboyway

Something happen to non-sensical?


1,016 posted on 01/03/2011 6:51:15 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: cowboyway

I wouldn’t doubt that scumbags like Soros have paid goons causing all sorts of minor mayhem and empty static on the ‘net and elsewhere.

However, YOU stated that “...rockrr and his band of paid provocateurs” operate here.

Since you and your paranoid schizo secessionist yahoos have lumped many of us together, you have claimed that *I* am a paid agent of some shadowy cabal.

You, cowpie, are a liar. Plain and simple. You are a liar, and there is nothing worse than a liar.


1,017 posted on 01/03/2011 6:51:26 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Thumper1960
You cannot debate with a hardcore Leftist. No matter what you say, you are the enemy.

And you're proving that with each and every post on this thread. BTW, just an observation, but I've noticed that you always capitalize, leftist, marxist, socialist. Just an observation.....

1,018 posted on 01/03/2011 6:52:44 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: central_va

The system you long for celebrated slavery.

Do YOU advocate slavery? Do YOU believe that the institution of slavery must be instituted again to keep with the purity of what you view as the Founders’ ideals of a republic? If the South were to rise again, would YOU wistfully long for slavery?


1,019 posted on 01/03/2011 6:55:03 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: cowboyway

Proper terms are usually capitalized. I try to remember to capitalize Confederacy, South, and USA.


1,020 posted on 01/03/2011 6:59:24 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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