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How the Worst President Ever Ended Up on a Controverisal New Coin (James Buchanan)
AOL News ^ | 8-19-2010 | Alex Eichler

Posted on 08/21/2010 7:17:45 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

Today, the U.S. Treasury released a $1 coin commemorating former President James Buchanan. And people aren't happy about it.

To understand why, some background is helpful. In 2007, thanks to a bill promoted by then-Senator John Sununu of New Hampshire, the Treasury began minting $1 coins with the likenesses of former Presidents, starting with George Washington.

The coins -- which have been appearing ever since, featuring a new President every three months -- are meant to improve use and circulation of America's dollar coins, which are often seen as an awkward misfit among currency, neither fish nor fowl.

Sununu's initiative drew inspiration from the 50 State Quarters Program, which launched in 1999. The runaway success of that effort, according to his legislation, "shows that a design on a U.S. circulating coin that is regularly changed... radically increases demand for the coin, rapidly pulling it through the economy."

The bill also suggested that a program wherein Presidents are featured on a succession of $1 coins, and First Spouses commemorated on gold $10 coins, could help correct a state of affairs where "many people cannot name all of the Presidents, and fewer can name the spouses, nor can many people accurately place each President in the proper time period of American history."

So the bill passed, and the Washington dollar coin appeared not long after. It was followed by Adams, Jefferson, et al., with the First Spouse coins minted alongside.

Now we're up to Buchanan, the fifteenth President, who took office in 1857 and turned things over to Abraham Lincoln in 1861, and whose coin (produced at the Philadelphia and Denver Mints and purchasable through the U.S. Mint website) has occasioned the aforementioned grousing. Here's where some feel the coin program is falling short:

1. The coins aren't circulating.

Many Americans have never gotten into the habit of using $1 coins, and as a result, over a billion commemorative Presidential coins are sitting around in a stockpile at the Federal Reserve. As BBC News reports, if these coins were stacked up and laid on their side, they'd stretch for 1,367 miles, or the distance from Chicago to New Mexico.

2. They don't seem to be educating people, either.

In February 2008, a year after the first presidential coins were minted, The New York Times reported that a survey had found large numbers of American teens to be woefully ignorant of their country's history. It was far from the first time Americans had gotten a dismal grade in history, suggesting that Sununu's commemorative-coin campaign isn't having much of an effect in that arena, either.

3. James Buchanan was kind of a crappy president.

In fairness, this is a grievance with a specific president, not the presidential coins program as a whole. Still, it seems to come up in all the coverage of the new coin: Buchanan wasn't very good at his job.

That's the consensus of historians, anyway, who have traditionally censured Buchanan for his failure to prevent the Civil War. Last year, a C-SPAN survey of historians granted Buchanan the dubious distinction of worst president ever.

Still, all of this isn't reason enough to declare the commemorative-coins program a total failure. If more coin collectors start avidly pursuing the presidential coins, it could have the effect of pushing down the national debt, thanks to the way the value of the coins fluctuates with their availability. And if the dollar coins were to catch on and replace paper $1 bills entirely, it could save the country between $500 and $700 million each year in printing costs.

Plus, if things stay on track, 2012 will see the release of the Chester A. Arthur dollar coin -- marking the first time that long non-commemorated president's face has ever appeared on any nation's currency. And who are we to deprive him of that?


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To: Larry Lucido

I know I’m counting the says til the Chester A. Arthur coin comes. I’m going to put it right next to my Millard Fillmore!


81 posted on 08/21/2010 5:03:13 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The book I mentioned has the answers to your questions.

So what, you don't want to "copy and paste" for days like you would have us Rebs do?

Nothing like that was mentioned in the book.

So when did that ever stop you all.
82 posted on 08/21/2010 5:08:30 PM PDT by mstar
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To: Brices Crossroads
Buchanan may not have been a great President, but he faced many crises including Dred Scott, Bleeding Kansas, Harper’s Ferry and the 1860 election.

And punted all of them.

83 posted on 08/21/2010 5:20:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
Third, it was the 'sensible Southerners' that realized that the South could never have a equal and friendly relationship with the yankee politicians and their corrupt political machine.

So their solution was to start the war that ended in their destruction. That was stupid of them.

84 posted on 08/21/2010 5:22:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Brices Crossroads
There were negotiations to sell the fort throughout the first month Lincoln was in office.

I believe you're incorrect on that.

And I often wonder, had both sides chosen a less bellicose form of persuasion, if the Union would not have reformed along lines of more durable, restrained constitutional government. It is one of the great “What ifs” of history.

I suppose there is a remote possibility that the confederate government might have done the same.

85 posted on 08/21/2010 5:24:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

This is the first that I knew these coins even exist.


86 posted on 08/21/2010 5:27:16 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I can see November from my house!" ---Sarah Palin)
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To: cowboyway
Unfair, financially crippling tariffs constitute oppression. Denying property rights constitute oppression. The election of a tyrant constitutes oppression.

None of that applied in 1860.

Southerners wanted separation from the yankees, whom they had never gotten along with and, as you well know, that same sentiment continues to this day.

ROTFLMAO!!!! Y'all didn't have a problem when y'all were running things.

Lincoln could have met with the Southern peace envoy that was sent to DC.

There was no such envoy.

Lincoln could have removed the troops from Ft. Sumter.

Why? It was their fort.

Lincoln could have sought a peaceful resolution.

None was desired by the rebel side.

The first part of the above statement is reprehensibly offensive.

The truth sometimes hurts.

If it weren't for Southerners there never would have been an American Revolution...

Absolute bullsh*t.

87 posted on 08/21/2010 5:29:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
Take your Homo sexualized, baby killing, Affirmative Action, high tax socialism and pack sand Yank(and take the left coast with you.

Where would Lost Causers be without hate?

88 posted on 08/21/2010 5:30:58 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
He also earned the title of the Great Slaughterer as he was directly responsible for the deaths of 600,000+ soldiers and untold Southern women and children.

Only by people with no grasp of history.

But of course, the cost is irrelevant as long as he freed a bunch of blacks from Africa who would later embrace socialism and elect a Kenyan who is destroying the country, even as we speak. /sarc

Your bigotry is duly noted.

89 posted on 08/21/2010 5:33:47 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
Are you saying that RE Lee had very little in common with his father?

The father won. We all know what the son was.

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90 posted on 08/21/2010 5:37:33 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mstar

‘Yeah there were some “pockets” of Unionists in North Carolina, and in north Alabama. You know “pockets”.’

There also were pockets in the frontier areas of north Florida. Also a pretty big ‘pocket’ in western Virginia, as I recall.


91 posted on 08/21/2010 5:39:51 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: mstar
Yeah there were some "pockets" of Unionists in North Carolina, and in north Alabama. You know "pockets".

Whole counties were in rebellion against the Richmond regime in western North Carolina, eastern Tennessee, northern Alabama, and parts of Florida. You know "counties."

92 posted on 08/21/2010 5:39:51 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: pnh102
As I’ve said before, we cannot get rid of the $1 bill. What are we going to tip strippers with?Instead of slipping the bill into the g-string, you ,uh, hmmm... never mind.
93 posted on 08/21/2010 5:40:37 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Compact Theory)
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To: central_va
From what I can tell from history, all of Ohio was copperhead-ville.

Ohion provided 320,000 troops for the Civil War, third only to New York and Pennsylvania. Lincoln also beat McClellan by 13 percentage points in the 1864 election. Your claims of copperhead influence is widely exaggerated.

94 posted on 08/21/2010 5:45:42 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway

‘as long as he freed a bunch of blacks from Africa’

Perhaps you would have them returned to slavery?


95 posted on 08/21/2010 5:45:56 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: P.O.E.; Moltke; Vermont Lt
Instead of slipping the bill into the g-string, you ,uh, hmmm... never mind.

I think it is a conspiracy to get tips up to $2s and $5s.

96 posted on 08/21/2010 6:19:44 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I’d really love to see obami eligible! It would make me happy and the country safer.


97 posted on 08/21/2010 6:21:33 PM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming - FUBO)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I like Harper Lee’s description of one such “pocket” in her book “To Kill A Mockingbird”;

“When Alabama seceded from the Union on 11 January 1861, Winston County seceded from Alabama. North Alabama was full of liquor interest, Big Mules, steel companies, Republicans, professors, and other persons of no background.’

A more modern interpretation would be;

” _______________ (fill in the name of your favorite lib area) was full of pot heads, unions, Democrats, liberal professors, and other persons of no background.’

With some “pockets”, one is better off without them.


98 posted on 08/21/2010 6:32:09 PM PDT by mstar
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To: pnh102

No! Just go with the $1 coin and see what happens! (And good luck with that!) :-)


99 posted on 08/21/2010 6:44:11 PM PDT by Moltke (panem et circenses)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Did you know there was a summer collegiate baseball team named the Southern Ohio Copperheads? LOL!
100 posted on 08/21/2010 6:48:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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