Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
I predicted her demise when I heard about the trip. Right after the news about a tape of her having had a telephone conversation in which she said he was born in Kenya.
Chears :’)
Easy does it.
Yes I am. They’re my minds. I ought to know.
First, I am not haunting these threads. I stay off most of them because its like trying to talk to brick walls. But there are several reasons I do get on them:
1. It’s fun. I like to argue and with the birther stuff it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. That’s not meant as a personal insult or anything. Its just that there is like zero evidence of anything and most of the suspicions are based either on bad information or faulty legal reasoning.
2. I like FR, and in all honesty, the birthers are generally not highly regarded in the outside world. Even Ann Coulter, who is certainly conservative and not shy, calls the birther stuff fringe cranksterism. So if somebody comes on FR, and all they see is this pro-birther stuff, the whole site gets marginalized.
If FR loses its credibility, good people stop coming here and good people stop reading us. By me, and the other non-birthers giving you guys billy-hell, the outside world can see that we are not all a bunch of birther-types. And, unlike the liberal sites, we show the world that we are not a bunch of sheep, who just follow the party line on everything. Oh no, some of are intelligent and thoughtful, and then some of us are birthers. (Okay, that was a cheap shot, but I ain’t perfect!)
3. People do listen. They may not make a public mea culpa, but they some do learn a little bit and see the error of their ways. I will go cut and paste a private communication I got from someone we saved from birtherism and post it one day.
4. Some birthers like to fuss with me as much as I like to fuss back. I make them more logical, to the degree that is possible.
5. I really think Orly is a curse upon you poor birthers. She’s a lawyer and she has misled you guys and given you a legal aura, that really isn’t there. While I will miss here when she is gone, and get many laughs from her, she deserves the treatment I give her.
parsy, the noble!
He looks a lot older than 48, which I think is how old he would have been in 1958.Looks more like he is in his 60s or 70’s.....The blur says “before he retired”-——
parsy, who says “Slam Dunk! - he wasn’t retired before Obama was born!”-—Pass the word so the other birthers will quit maykng the same mistake...
According to Vattel, he was and is. Because *both* his parents were citizens and he was born "in the armies of the state", regardless of the physical location. (see Vattel, Book I sections 212 and 217, the later contains the "exception" "physically born in the county" while the former is the basic "born in the country of parents who are citizens.
Of course I don't know that the Republican "leadership" is bright enough to have read that part of "Law of Nations".
First, I am not haunting these threads.
You are now.
I stay off most of them because its like trying to talk to brick walls.
People that you disagree with are stupid, right? Nice.
The rest is drivel. I USED to respect you. Heck I've even goofed around with you on silly threads. What a difference a day makes.
Look at number 711. Note how the doctor is wearing a doctor costume. Fred Nerks provided the pic, BTW. The blurb said it was “before he retired”. Doesn’t he look older than 46? If he had retired at age 46,then he would have had a medical career of about 7 years?? And still hes the president of the Hawaii Medical Association?
Nope. Your source has a boo boo.
parsy, who expects a big, heartfelt “Thank You, parsy for correcting our error!”
Look parsifal, I should be able to visit a research thread without being afraid that I have to defend my opinion. As it is, you and others make discussion impossible. Tell me that it’s ok for adults to behave that way.........
Sorry, Nerks picture is at 718, not 711.
parsy, who isn’t afraid to admit when he makes boo-boos!
..he wasn’t ‘retired’ - he was retired from obstetrics. When? After some 5 thousand deliveries.
And this is NOT a contest. We are looking for the truth. All you do with your stupid comments is prove how immature you are.
parsy, who expects a big, heartfelt “Thank You, parsy for correcting our error!”
Ummmm you have done no such thing.
He admits it’s fun.
To fools like him, the shredding of the Constitution and a marxist, ineligible president is a source of amusement.
Others have admitted they derive jollity from harassing theses threads.
Normal people just leave alone topics they don’t like.
Yes. I can only conclude that they may like the attention it garners or they enjoy ridiculing and fighting with others. Neither is a flattering picture. I do have an addendum. There are some that are truly Obama trolls. There are even paid trolls. That’s been spoken about on other websites. Obamas online army.
Then don’t talk to us. BUT, what you are getting is DISCUSSION. What you are getting is RESEARCH. You seem to be more the natural born citizen type, and you had the Vattel research as I recall. (?) I tried to give you ADDITIONAL RESEARCH. Other info on natural born citizens.
Why would a researcher not want verifiable research? That goes back to what I said-—birthers live in their own little world. And heaven help the freepers who don’t agree with that world, because we are obots, and trolls, and commie spies, and whatever.
Birthers are like the global warming dudes. All they want to see is data that backs up global warming. Don’t dare try to show them stuff that says it ain’t. And if you do, then you are an equivalent of an obot, troll, commie, whatever.
You are a better person than that and you need to open up your mind, read the stuff you don’t agree with, and then come to a conclusion. You might still be a birther. But if you are, you’ll be a birther who knows what is going on, and you will know how to defend your position. And, if I am wrong, you’ll be able to correct me.
There’s nothing wrong with being wrong. I am wrong a lot. But there is something wrong with not trying to learn and grow. It hurts you as a person. Let loose, learn, grow, and if you are wrong about something, admit it and move on. I don’t know how old you are, but that is a part of life. It gets easier as you get older.
parsy, who hopes you make the leap!
Of course, his little friend who was discussing this for 2 1/2 hours with the staff at the DOH now claims he wrote the email on Tuesday or something and it hung out in a folder before he sent it.
Oh, and his little friend also just happens to be a graduate of West Point! Life is full of amazing coincidences, isn’t it!
I agree we are looking for the truth. Any idea why my sources say he was still delivering? Any idea why yours says the opposite?
parsy
Just letting you know that by now most people don’t read your logorrhea. Most sets of eyes just skip ‘em.
Piggins is a paid hireling. I think *uckeye is as well.
No. Not when you say things like this; I stay off most of them because its like trying to talk to brick walls.
That is contempt for an opinion different than your own.
I still don't understand how you can ignore that Obama has lied about everything. He lies about his beliefs, his friends, he even told 2 different stories about meeting his wife. Yet you will blindly accept his word that he is eligible. That is not logical.
Too late to stop the check, eh, Your Snarkiness?
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