Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms date accepted and date filed on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms Date accepted by the State Registrar and Date filed by the State Registrar referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of Oahu or on the neighbor islands of Kauai, Hawaii, Maui, Molokai, or Lanai), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of Oahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the Date filed by the State Registrar is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obamas Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
I did understand that. I know what the web archive is. What I was saying is this. If you are the most powerful person in the world, it might not be too difficult to alter the records there and hacking wouldn’t necessarily be the only way to do it.
You are welcome. :-)
Well, I guess I will answer this one last post before I banish myself from this particular thread. I have stop posting on this thread because I don’t want to risk my reputation as a great researcher by posting anymore about Bomford when I haven’t done tremendous amounts of research into Bomford. So I’m shutting up now about Bomford.
But I will answer this last question about Orly.
She’s been painted my the MSM as the leader of birthers when really she never has been even close to being the “leader”. Phil Berg has a much large following. And other Birther attorneys have much better attack plans than Orly could ever dream of. The MSM knows this and has known this for some time now. So what does the MSM do??? They paint the crazy Orly has our leader.
Orly and her husband Yosi or Yosef are profoundly wealthy. They own TONS TONS TONS or realestate and they have million or real dollars in the bank. Tangible money.
Orly Taitz refuses to pay for any research. Most anyone that has ever worked with Orly has never been paid on dollar for their work. As a matter of fact many of them HAVE PAID ORLY to be part of her “team”.
Not even the renowned Charles Edward Lincoln III could understand just what was wrong with Orly Taitz. And Charles Lincoln was in love with her. But not even love was strong enough to overpower his sense of something not adding up when it came to Orly Taitz and the way she operates.
Orly’s husband was in Kenya in 2009 but he wont discuss it and will not talk about it in Court. He also does a lot of business in China.
Orly’s refugee camp of ex clients, ex-staff, ex-attorneys, and ex-witnesses is growing by the week.
Nothing makes sense about her. Especially when she told me that she wanted me to lie in Court. I told her that he already had enough and that if we want more we must conduct research and investigation so why would we want to risk it all and tell lies in Court?
It’s possible that Orly Taitz works for some other team that does not share any common interests with Birthers. I just don’t have 100% proof and I don’t want to ruin my reputation as a good investigator by jumping out there and just saying that Orly Taitz works for Obama.
Respectfully,
Lucas Daniel Smith.
PS. Again I don’t know for sure 100% about the KenyaBCPunkster guy either. I just haven’t done enough research into Bomford that is needed to actually go up against the KenyaBCPunkster guy. So I toss the towel in. You win. At least for now.
You need to get a copy of San Yat-Sen’s Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii. San Yat-Sen was really born in China, but received a Hawaiin “Birth” Certificate under the Section 338-17.8 loophole.
This is the same loophole that Barry used for his Kenyan birth certificate.
Check out post #43 of this thread.
Buckeye Texan pings all of the anti-birther trolls: mlo; Non-Sequitur; parsifal; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; El Sordo; MilspecRob;...
Meddlesome amateurs.
Oh, and Sun Yat-Sen got what’s called a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth.” Not a Certificate of Live Birth.
How exactly does one get a birth certificate in 1961 based on a law that wouldn't exist for another 21 years?
The point he's making dingy is that San Yat-Sens received a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth stating he was born in Hawaii, which is not true as he was born in China. Maybe you should only stick with the Bomford caper. The statute that Obama highly likely acquired his Hawaii birth records became law in 1957, 4 year before Obama was born and NOT 21 years later. See C. 57 below:
The bottom line is that the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that the certificate number is given by the state registrar on the “Date filed”. This means that the Factcheck COLB could not have been “filed” 3 days before the Nordyke BC’s and still receive a later number than the Nordykes’ certificates.
IOW, we know that Factcheck is a forgery not only because Obama’s BC was amended and that isn’t noted on the COLB as required by law, but also because the certificate number and filing dates are an impossible combination.
So this is two different ways, now, that the DOH’s answers to official requests have pointed out information that shows Factcheck to be a forgery.
He is. He's deceiving you into thinking that down deep inside he's really a good person -- and you're falling for it ---- again --- and again.
When was the last time citizens convened a grand jury?
You constantly make the most trollish remarks.
YEP -- but we do have provenance of one thing and that is that Obama's father was not an American citizen and therefore he is not a natural born citizen.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii
It wasn’t a remark, it was a question. Now go away and stop bothering me unless you have something constructive to add to the discussion.
Kinda seems like a nut-job site.
Not happening. You're posts have raised red flags on this thread before.
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