Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
And I don’t plan on agreeing or disagreeing. They ain’t my words. I don’t play that stupid game.
parsy, who says-—So There! Na na na na boo boo!
Did you even READ this before you posted?
I am very patient. But you do not want to learn. You want to pose. So pose. Say some more dumb stuff so the people who lurk and read this can laugh. I would like to taunt you-—to tell you my logic is superior-—but it hasn’t even gotten to that level with you. You just keep saying the same old dumb stuff over and over. Worse, you refuse to read and comprehend the English language. No one is that stupid.
So I have to figure you are just somebody who likes to make noise. There is nothing wrong with that. But I am not going to waste any more time on unless I read something thoughtful and deserving of response.
parsy, who is pushing the noisy little bird out of the nest and expects much chirping....
You have a shtick. You find one or two weakness from some of the posts here and try to rile people up. The only problem is that you don’t like it when you’re called out for this misbehavior. You’ve used this tactic to deflect from your lack of a counterargument from what I destroyed earlier in the thread. And now, it’s just more ad hominem nonsense. Expect better of yourself ... or at least admit what your real game is.
parsifal, your behaviour isn't normal. Nor is it funny.
ROTFLMAO! -—”one or two weaknesses”
More like ‘”huge glaring black holes of confusion, mis-information, illogic, and less than elementary school levels of word recognition”
I gave you all the law links, a fair and balanced review of the law, an Indiana case to support my analysis, and multiple explanations with cut and pasted language from the cases. In return, I have to beg you to even read the cases, and when you do, you fail to even notice all the multiple statements by the Wong court that say what I told you it said, and go on to ignore the excerpts that I post.
parsy, who isn’t picking on you—you all ain’t doing a minimal level of homework—and you all are far less than candid and sincere.
I love how you beg for validation. Too funny.
The only big issue I see is whether or not you are going to read the cases or the excerpts and believe what your eyes are telling you.
So far you guys are going all around the block to avoid that.
parsy, who figures the cases say what the cases say
All have is cut & paste from your washed up traffic law clerk as well as your wikipedia jd.
We see right thru you, especially in light of your new found flaming comments trashing the founders & the hell they went thru so that your sorry little a$$ could live in a free society.
It's drones like you who are destroying our country for your socialist utopia where there is equal poverty for all.
... while steadfastly ignoring that he's been show more than once how they don't say what parsy thinks, and with parsy's own citations.
How about addressing what I actually said. You have a very hard time doing that.
State of Virginia:
May 1779
Be it enacted by the General Assembly, that all white persons born within the territory of this commonwealth and all who have resided therein two years next before the passing of this act, and all who shall hereafter migrate into the same; and shall before any court of record give satisfactory proof by their own oath or affirmation, that they intend to reside therein, and moreover shall give assurance of fidelity to the commonwealth; and all infants wheresoever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth, or who migrate hither, their father, if living, or otherwise their mother becoming a citizen, or who migrate hither without father or mother, shall be deemed citizens of this commonwealth, until they relinquish that character in manner as herein after expressed: And all others not being citizens of any the United States of America, shall be deemed aliens. The clerk of the court shall enter such oath of record, and give the person taking the same a certificate thereof, for which he shall receive the fee of one dollar. And in order to preserve to the citizens of this commonwealth, that natural right, which all men have of relinquishing the country, in which birth, or other accident may have thrown them, and, seeking subsistance and happiness wheresoever they may be able, or may hope to find them: And to declare unequivocably what circumstances shall be deemed evidence of an intention in any citizen to exercise that right, it is enacted and declared, that whensoever any citizen of this commonwealth, shall by word of mouth in the presence of the court of the county, wherein he resides, or of the General Court, or by deed in writing, under his hand and seal, executed in the presence of three witnesses, and by them proved in either of the said courts, openly declare to the same court, that he relinquishes the character of a citizen, and shall depart the commonwealth; or whensoever he shall without such declaration depart the commonwealth and enter into the service of any other state, not in enmity with this, or any other of the United States of America, or do any act whereby he shall become a subject or citizen of such state, such person shall be considered as having exercised his natural right of expatriating himself, and shall be deemed no citizen of this commonwealth from the time of his departure. The free white inhabitants of every of the states, parties to the American confederation, paupers, vagabonds and fugitives from justice excepted, shall be intitled to all rights, privileges, and immunities of free citizens in this commonwealth, and shall have free egress, and regress, to and from the same, and shall enjoy therein, all the privileges of trade, and commerce, subject to the same duties, impositions and restrictions as the citizens of this commonwealth. And if any person guilty of, or charged with treason, felony, or other high misdemeanor, in any of the said states, shall flee from justice and be found in this commonwealth, he shall, upon demand of the Governor, or Executive power of the state, from which he fled, be delivered up to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of his offence. Where any person holding property, within this commonwealth, shall be attainted within any of the said states, parties to the said confederation, of any of those crimes, which by the laws of this commonwealth shall be punishable by forfeiture of such property, the said property shall be disposed of in the same manner as it would have been if the owner thereof had been attainted of the like crime in this commonwealth.
” We see right thru you, especially in light of your new found flaming comments trashing the founders & the hell they went thru so that your sorry little a$$ could live in a free society.
It’s drones like you who are destroying our country for your socialist utopia where there is equal poverty for all. “
TRANSLATION: You are holding our little Birther feet to the fire with the Wong case, and every time we make up something, you catch us and stick us right back in.
Soooo, we’re going to call you names and make up stuff about you, hoping you will not notice what we are up to—but DARN IT! You keep nailing us you....you...you... You are an inhuman Fiend!
CONCLUSION: You would have an easier time if you just believed your eyes....
parsy, the Inhuman Fiend!
One could suppose that since the Constitution doesn’t define natural born citizen, that via the 10th amendment, one could look to the states for their local definitions and apply them specifically for the home state of the candidate. Clearly under the Virginia law, Obama would not be a natural born citizen.
What is this all about?
(And you have to admit that Patlin v. United States stuff was pretty clever for a Drone.....bzzz......bzzzz....
parsy, the Inhuman Fiend who is ROTFLMAO.....
Oh, I beg to differ.
The federal government was weak under the Articles of Confederation, but it did, indeed, exist.
“supposing” stuff instead of reading cases and believing your eyes is what got you where you are...
parsy
Hello tonite! I’m being an Inhuman Fiend again.
parsy, the fiendish
I’m so honored. This is at least twice I’ve made you drop your signature comment ...
But to your “supposed” point. Am I “supposed” to be impressed you recast your long-running ad hominem fallacy??
Speaking of Obama and his little White House scheme, a couple things occur to me.
Why do socialists not stop and take a look at the fact that in socialism nobody wins. Nobody. Not the proletarians, not the useful idiots, not the military officers. Neither the street activists nor the trained subversives. Not even the heads of state.
In my opinion none of the socialists, from the useful idiots on up, including those who rise to the political level of a Stalin, or an Obama, are able to understand what it is that drives them to desire socialism.
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