Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
Well, I don’t know, but the story sounds a little out there for me. Sounds like the kind of stunt I might pull. Heck, I have pulled stunts like that, come to think of it.
But who knows. I wasn’t there.
parsy, who pulled his left stunt once and sprained it
She had to be there. You can’t like beam a baby out in Kenya to the Transporter Room in Hawaii. At least not in 1961. Star Trek didn’t come out like what, 65 or 66?
Plus, women tend to want to be around their momma when they have their first baby.
parsy, who knows of women
MT immediately contacted Okubo to ask what is meant by “vital records” as used in Fukino’s July 27 statement. Okubo sent a Wikipedia entry basically saying it means birth, death, or marriage certificates.
Receipts would be kept in a processing file but not in the vital record file. They’re stored separately - have different retention schedules and record labels.
A birth certificate that has been amended cannot be evaluated apart from the supplementary evidence that goes with it. Supplementary evidence is kept in a different file than the actual certificate. So if a person was going to verify something on a birth certificate that had been amended they would have to look in the file of supplementary documentation.
That is the most likely explanation for why Fukino referred to vital records (plural) when verifying information for the only vital event Obama has recorded at the DOH. If the item she was verifying was not amended she could have just mentioned the birth certificate. But the item that was amended can’t be verified apart from looking at the file of documentation for the amended claim.
The fact that she referred to the vital records (plural) indicates that she had to look at more than just the BC - so whatever she was verifying was an amended item. And she was verifying place of birth.
Of course she was there. I don’t think he was hatched in a jar. But none of us know where ‘there’ was.
And with that latest silly comment you made, you have ceased to be of interest to me. Bye.
You have very big ears and a very unpatriotic mouth .
Why are you even here buck bait?
Night!
I need to do other stuff too.
BTW I finished my article! heheh!
YOU are turning into a real troll. You need so STFU!
YOU are turning into a real troll. You need to STFU!
Hey dkweed, you can fish and fish and fish. You are NOT getting what you are looking for. Do you think anyone is going to tell you anything relevant that has been found. Are you off your meds again?
Later!
can see what’s in front of my eyes and so can everybody else
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Indeed, keep up the good work, you’ve got them running scared and that’s a good thing.
Like Obama’s father??
“As a teenager, Obama went to parties and sometimes sought out gatherings on military bases or at the University of Hawaii that were mostly attended by black.
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sought them out to sell or buy drugs and have a little back door sex no doubt.
True, but on a hunch, when this was first released, I may have been the first person to find on the Wiki international date format page that Kenya is one of the few countries in the world that was listed as regularly using BOTH formats.
The original source data (from memory) came from IBM software manuals that were used to set up computer software formats by country around the world.
An Obot named Mystylplx immediately edited the Wiki page, but was reversed and locked for a time, but now all specific references to Kenya using two formats have disappeared from the text of the page except for the world map, which may have been harder for the Obot scrubbers to edit.
Kenya is still color-coded purple on the world map as a dual format country at this site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country
There is a ready explanation for two formats in the fact that Kenya, when founded, was formed by the merger of two separate legal entities, Kenya Colony and Coast Province, which may well have used two different formats in their separate clerical cultures.
I don't know if the book states what year this certificate was found, but someone had mentioned how you need your vaccination papers when you travel abroad ... the certificate was apparently with Obama's vaccination ... IOW, these were Obama's travel documents and perhaps not an actual passport. The certificate could have been from any of the 57 states or countries in which Obama might have been born
As he moved towards considering taking the oath of office he would have a legal, moral, ethical and patriotic duty to resolve any doubts there might be regarding his eligibility, in my view.
Yes, but recall how he couldn't even recite a basic oath. Mumblemouth tried to talk over Judge Roberts and threw off the whole thing ... and had to do it again out of public view. Not impressed with Barry Soetoro's legal, moral, ethical or patriotic behavior.
Great link! Fascinating. Thank you. It also had time and I had no idea whether Kenya was 24 hour or not. Couldn’t tell. Well I jumped out there!
parsy, who isn’t afraid to plop.
The bottom line is that a citation of vital records in the plural means the birth certificate alone is not enough to prove Obama was born in Hawaii. A marriage and death certificate would not work, so the only other vital record maintained by the DOH are divorce records, and Okubo outright lied about the DOH maintaining any divorce records when it’s clearly stated they do under law and on the DOH Web site. The other possibility, besides the divorce record, are adoption records. IOW, Obama could have been adopted AT BIRTH. Perhaps the Obama birth certificate references adoption papers when the baby was born to its biological mother (not Stanley Ann). Fukino may have looked at those adoption papers to see where it said the baby was born, but is barred from disclosing ANYTHING about adoption by law. It still doesn’t explain the fraudulent cert number on the funkcheck.org COLB.
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