Posted on 08/09/2009 8:10:48 PM PDT by Gordon Greene
Just in case anyone missed it (and I think most did), there is little difference between the brother of Rahm Emanuel (Ezekial) and none other than Charles Robert Darwin.
I trust at this point most of you have seen the ravings of one of the lunatic healthcare advisors to Obama, the high potentate of all that is to be united. Ezekial Emanuel’s words could just as well have been spoken in the Third Reich and are as follows:
"When implemented, the Complete Lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated... The Complete Lives system justifies preference to younger people because of priority to the worst-off rather than instrumental value."
Justification for killing children under the guise of abortion started with something as humanistic as “only in cases of rape and incest” and landed squarely in the passenger seat of “a woman’s right to choose”. As a society we have been flirting with euthanasia for some odd years now. Well, as incrementalism would have it, it is now beating down our doors and trying to take control of our healthcare system.
Another of Obama’s close compatriots, Cass Sunstein had this to say about his relationship with Obama:
“Not so long ago, the phone rang in my office. It was Barack Obama. For more than a decade, Obama was my colleague at the University of Chicago Law School. He is also a friend. But since his election to the Senate, he does not exactly call every day.”
This is a quote from Mr. Sunstein regarding the topic of healthcare:
"I urge that the government should indeed focus on life-years rather than lives. A program that saves young people produces more welfare than one that saves old people."
As a general rule, those in politics and academia do not speak in a vacuum. It is only through years of programming that these people, including Obama develop a callousness that is unmatched in normal society. The teachings of public education and education in our major universities have centered on the idea that Darwin’s theories are correct even against human and scientific evidence to the contrary. If you want to know where these radical thinkers derived their ideas, you need look no further than the writings of one Charles Robert Darwin.
“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one up to the last moment. ..”
“Vaccination has preserved thousands who from a weak constitution would formerly have suc-cumbed to smallpox. Thus, the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man....”
“ Excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.”
“[Yet,] the aid which we feel impelled to give to the help¬less is mainly an incidental result of the [otherwise good] instinct of sympathy...”
“We must therefore bear the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind...”
Evolution… the survival of the fittest… we wonder why our children emerge from the higher institutions of learning and forsake our God, our morals and our teachings. They do so because the theory that is so pervasive in those institutions belittles our existence and lowers our relevance to that of a simple animal. Is humaneness in a society a trait to be honored? Yes. Are animals meant to be abused, neglected or treated dishonorably? No!
It’s perspective, man!!!
If there is no God and we are truly left to our own moral devices, then we are no more than animals. Our our worth is no greater than the sum of all our parts and any Evolutionist who claims the strength of their morality is being dishonest with themselves and dishonoring the very name of their evolutionary savior, Charles Darwin! Don’t tell me we are no greater than the animals that were placed on this earth to serve mankind and then brag to me that the strength of your convictions is greater than Christianity.
If you love The Origin of the Species, embrace it! Call Australian Aborigines, Blacks and Indians what your father called them… SAVAGES! Rave about the inferior female mind:
“. . . a higher eminence, in whatever he takes up, than can women—whether requiring deep thought, reason, or imagination, or merely the use of the senses and hands. If two lists were made of the most eminent men and women in poetry, painting, sculpture, music (inclusive of both composition and performance), history, science, and philosophy, with half-a-dozen names under each subject, the two lists would not bear comparison. We may also infer, from the law of the deviation from averages, so well illustrated by Mr. Galton, in his work on "Hereditary Genius" that . . . the average of mental power in man must be above that of women (Darwin, 1896:564).”
Be true to your roots as Evolutionists, supporting those like Emanuel and Sunstein who sound more like Darwin and Hitler than Jefferson or Reagan. You keep your faith and vote for healthcare reform: I’ll keep mine and fight Darwinism, Communism, Humanism, Socialism, Marxism and everything they stand for!
Or perhaps you could look into what it is Charles Darwin actually believed. Take note that your beliefs on the origin of the species are more in line with the Communist and Nazi than with the Christian. Don’t just listen to your mealy-mouthed professors who watered down the conclusions of a man possessed of the opinion that you came into this world from ancestors swinging from the trees. READ WHAT DARWIN ACTUALLY SAID. Then use the brain God put in your thick skulls to draw your own conclusions.
P.S. If you actually read Darwin’s writings and believe what the man said then, why do you consider yourself conservative? No, I really want an answer.
Question: Who said this?
"Man must realize that a fundamental law of necessity reigns throughout the whole realm of Nature and that his existence is subject to the law of eternal struggle and strife . . .where the strong are always the masters of the weak and where those subject to such laws must obey them or be destroyed, one general law leading to the advancement of all organic beings . . . let the strongest live and the weakest die."
Answer: Adolph Hitler (Now tell me how that differs from Darwin’s survival of the fittest mentality?)
I know you didn’t give the answer. Just wondering if you care to make a statement on your divergent viewpoints.
I can live with agreeing to disagree. I don't think much of doing it in overboard hyperbole and buckets of perjoratives and epithets.
SHAME on you!
Here is what he says on evolution!
They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other,” the pope said. “This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”
You prove with this line of thinking that Christianity is completely alien to you. The denominations do not define who is a Christian. The individuals do. The Lord said that the entire church is loaded with tares. We cannot accurately discern who is wheat, and who is tare.
You lose; give up.
A long philosophical answer but not responding to my point. Where do you disagree with the following that you posted?
““With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one up to the last moment. ..” .”
“The denominations do not define who is a Christian. The individuals do.”
Sounds like a cult. I think the Branch Davidians had a similar philosophy.
At least editor agrees that being Catholic does not exclude you from also being a Christian.
The pope is simply not up on the facts, and doesn't realize that true science has demolished evolution completely. This is not a Biblical doctrine issue here; its the confusion that the propaganda industry has created.
What issue? It appears to be a manufactured off-topic issue. You’ve been offered the opportunity to argue the issue in a thread where it is the topic. You’ve declined. In other words, your bluff has been called and you’ve folded. You can’t get any takers because they understand your efforts stem from a heart filled with malice.
Interesting.
I haven't folded. I recognize the agony that y'all are undergoing. I just heard today that Obama was down in Mexico talking about those that would dare question his healthcare program and calling them demigods. Basically, they don't want anyone to question them and they keep ignoring the questions and demonizing the questioners. Do you need a mirror?
What?! Did I call you a butt monkey or something? If I've treated you that abusively, hit the abuse button. If not, quit whining.
Aw ... Here we have an article posted by the writer that compares Darwin to Hitler and Obama and company and you are upset because we ask a few innocent questions.
“One at a time... An answer to what? What I think Catholics believe? That’s easy... I gave you a chance to re-word it but your pride won’t let you so, here goes. I don’t know. I’m not Catholic.” (my reply to Buck)
“Again (after many reminders about twisting the question) I must inform you that you are once again restating the question incorrectly. The question is “Do you believe Catholics can be Christians. It is not about what you believe that Catholics beleive, it is about whether you believe that Catholics can be Christians.” (CW’s reply to me)
So, what’s a boy to think?
From your answer (and if the threads are closely followed) unless you are corn-fused yerself CW, I would have to infer that you may be Buck, and Buck might be you... and with that (seeing as the lines are properly blurred), I bid you, adieu!
Good night everybody!
Jesus Christ is the one that gave us that view. - The Davidians may have had some quirky ideas on prophecy, but they were mostly devout Christians, that were murdered by General Wesley Clark, and Janet Reno. Clark also murdered many other helpless, inocent Christians in the war in the Balkans.
“...that true science has demolished evolution completely.”
Would that be the same science that gave us hydroplaning continents, a vapor canopy, fountains of the deep, vegetatian velociraptors (before the fall, of course), and unicorns?
That would be a guess or an opionion. There is nothing in the posts to infer that we are the same person. But, if you are posting as several people at the same time, you might have thoughts that maybe others are doing it also.
You obviously do!
No doubt your present spectacle of 'defending' Catholicism is a sincere exercise in Catholic apologetics, motivated by selfless sentiments of solidarity. However, in another thread, you asked me to prove that Christ was born of a virgin.
Here is what he says on evolution
So, according to you, he didn't say those other things?
THIS IS INCREDIBLE!
You can affirm the Christianity of Branch Davidians as a denomination, but not Roman Catholics!
I believe the earlier “heart full of malice” comment from a different poster was misdirected.
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