Posted on 08/09/2009 8:10:48 PM PDT by Gordon Greene
Just in case anyone missed it (and I think most did), there is little difference between the brother of Rahm Emanuel (Ezekial) and none other than Charles Robert Darwin.
I trust at this point most of you have seen the ravings of one of the lunatic healthcare advisors to Obama, the high potentate of all that is to be united. Ezekial Emanuel’s words could just as well have been spoken in the Third Reich and are as follows:
"When implemented, the Complete Lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated... The Complete Lives system justifies preference to younger people because of priority to the worst-off rather than instrumental value."
Justification for killing children under the guise of abortion started with something as humanistic as “only in cases of rape and incest” and landed squarely in the passenger seat of “a woman’s right to choose”. As a society we have been flirting with euthanasia for some odd years now. Well, as incrementalism would have it, it is now beating down our doors and trying to take control of our healthcare system.
Another of Obama’s close compatriots, Cass Sunstein had this to say about his relationship with Obama:
“Not so long ago, the phone rang in my office. It was Barack Obama. For more than a decade, Obama was my colleague at the University of Chicago Law School. He is also a friend. But since his election to the Senate, he does not exactly call every day.”
This is a quote from Mr. Sunstein regarding the topic of healthcare:
"I urge that the government should indeed focus on life-years rather than lives. A program that saves young people produces more welfare than one that saves old people."
As a general rule, those in politics and academia do not speak in a vacuum. It is only through years of programming that these people, including Obama develop a callousness that is unmatched in normal society. The teachings of public education and education in our major universities have centered on the idea that Darwin’s theories are correct even against human and scientific evidence to the contrary. If you want to know where these radical thinkers derived their ideas, you need look no further than the writings of one Charles Robert Darwin.
“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one up to the last moment. ..”
“Vaccination has preserved thousands who from a weak constitution would formerly have suc-cumbed to smallpox. Thus, the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man....”
“ Excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.”
“[Yet,] the aid which we feel impelled to give to the help¬less is mainly an incidental result of the [otherwise good] instinct of sympathy...”
“We must therefore bear the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind...”
Evolution… the survival of the fittest… we wonder why our children emerge from the higher institutions of learning and forsake our God, our morals and our teachings. They do so because the theory that is so pervasive in those institutions belittles our existence and lowers our relevance to that of a simple animal. Is humaneness in a society a trait to be honored? Yes. Are animals meant to be abused, neglected or treated dishonorably? No!
It’s perspective, man!!!
If there is no God and we are truly left to our own moral devices, then we are no more than animals. Our our worth is no greater than the sum of all our parts and any Evolutionist who claims the strength of their morality is being dishonest with themselves and dishonoring the very name of their evolutionary savior, Charles Darwin! Don’t tell me we are no greater than the animals that were placed on this earth to serve mankind and then brag to me that the strength of your convictions is greater than Christianity.
If you love The Origin of the Species, embrace it! Call Australian Aborigines, Blacks and Indians what your father called them… SAVAGES! Rave about the inferior female mind:
“. . . a higher eminence, in whatever he takes up, than can women—whether requiring deep thought, reason, or imagination, or merely the use of the senses and hands. If two lists were made of the most eminent men and women in poetry, painting, sculpture, music (inclusive of both composition and performance), history, science, and philosophy, with half-a-dozen names under each subject, the two lists would not bear comparison. We may also infer, from the law of the deviation from averages, so well illustrated by Mr. Galton, in his work on "Hereditary Genius" that . . . the average of mental power in man must be above that of women (Darwin, 1896:564).”
Be true to your roots as Evolutionists, supporting those like Emanuel and Sunstein who sound more like Darwin and Hitler than Jefferson or Reagan. You keep your faith and vote for healthcare reform: I’ll keep mine and fight Darwinism, Communism, Humanism, Socialism, Marxism and everything they stand for!
Or perhaps you could look into what it is Charles Darwin actually believed. Take note that your beliefs on the origin of the species are more in line with the Communist and Nazi than with the Christian. Don’t just listen to your mealy-mouthed professors who watered down the conclusions of a man possessed of the opinion that you came into this world from ancestors swinging from the trees. READ WHAT DARWIN ACTUALLY SAID. Then use the brain God put in your thick skulls to draw your own conclusions.
P.S. If you actually read Darwin’s writings and believe what the man said then, why do you consider yourself conservative? No, I really want an answer.
Question: Who said this?
"Man must realize that a fundamental law of necessity reigns throughout the whole realm of Nature and that his existence is subject to the law of eternal struggle and strife . . .where the strong are always the masters of the weak and where those subject to such laws must obey them or be destroyed, one general law leading to the advancement of all organic beings . . . let the strongest live and the weakest die."
Answer: Adolph Hitler (Now tell me how that differs from Darwin’s survival of the fittest mentality?)
“And don’t think I missed the “we”. “
He’s on to “us”. All of “us”. Even the ones of “us” who are secretly copied on this post.
He’ll probably tell all of “them” about “us”.
“Obama could end the BC issue by producing his BC. metmom and others could end this issue …” [excerpt]If Buck wants his questions answered, why has he (to date) refused to post them as a thread?
“… by saying they believe Catholics are Christians.”Careful, your starting to sound like a schoolroom bully.
Nobody has ever proposed a scientific theory of evolution; just the regular unscientific one that Dumwin dreamed up. - Try again.
“Not to a real Christian”
What is a “real Christian”?
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The difference between what you are doing and polluting the thread? - Nothing.
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Correct, evolution and science are logical opposites.
Do you agree or disagree with the idea that in nature it is survival of the fittest?
Sorry. I can't speak for Buck. You will have to ask him, not me.
I have no ties to any other posters nor do I have to bounce things off of others before posting.
"Why? You're lack of knowledge didn't stop you from writing the article."
This dude must be an English teacher, right?
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You think that God's the liar and Satan is the truth teller? Okaaayyyyy.......
As usual, you have twisted the issue as presented by others. The question is not whether an individual memeber can or is a Christian, the question is:
Do you believe that Catholics are Christians?
“It is a common phrase. But it took you to find the ‘evil’ in it. I would say that it was your mind that is focused on evil.”
I’m sorry... it’s the first I heard of it. In any case, I figured the second go round there might be some more creative terminology than ‘scare the pants off’. I mean, are you guys really so insanely arrogant that you believe your words and questions ‘frighten’ us? Obama’s health-care plan... now that’s scary! Nancy Pelosi’s face... YIKES!
The problem is that you are asking people who embrace Christianity to condemn others so that you can use their words for your own personal, sick purpose. We struggle with judging others just like you do, but with us it’s metered by a desire not to because we know God doesn’t want us to judge the hearts of others. We believe men are not animals, and as such have a responsibility to fight the sin nature. If you do not believe we were created by God, then you have no such dictate. You’re trying to argue Christianity from a completely different perspective so I don’t expect you to get it... I also would refer you to the previous posts with answers to the Catholic question. If you do not like the answers, then that’s fine. They are a true representation of my beliefs on the subject.
By the way, it’s surprising how juvenile you sound even in your last reply. Or maybe not...
Not at all. They're just generally not well educated in the parts of the Bible that deal with this.
"“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one up to the last moment. ..”
Do you always defeat your own argument within your own post?
“He’s on to “us”. All of “us”. Even the ones of “us” who are secretly copied on this post.
He’ll probably tell all of “them” about “us”.”
Snide comments on snide comments...
If you keep it up I’ll let “them” know what “all of you” are up to... shhh... it’s a secret!
"Not at all. They're [Catholic Church and the Pope] just generally not well educated in the parts of the Bible that deal with this."
Anyone who affirms what is in the Apostolic or Nicene creeds is a Christian. Someone who does not believe in the Trinity is not a Christian. So, Catholics, Orthodox and most other denominations who call themselves Christians are Christians.
However, it is baffling how so many people hear that 'evolution is an article of the Catholic faith' from the mouth of an atheist and assume it is true without further thought. It is a dogma of the Catholic faith that every human being (not just Adam and Eve) requires an individual supernatural act of creation on the part of God, which is, the soul. So a Catholic cannot believe that humans arise from purely naturalistic processes without denying his faith.
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