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Free Republic Purge: Conservative Web Site Bans Giuliani Supporters
NY Observer ^ | Published: May 24, 2007 | by Rebecca Sinderbrand

Posted on 05/26/2007 1:49:34 PM PDT by Eurotwit

A few weeks ago – in between Hillary Clinton’s official entry into the presidential race and the first Republican primary debate of the cycle – the fiery online conservative forum Free Republic marked a decade in operation as one of the premier online forums for right-wing political discussion.

It also experienced one of the biggest internal battles to rock the site since the 2000 election of George W. Bush -- a tumultuous campaign year that nearly tore the site apart, as its founder and chief administrator first cleansed commenting ranks of Bush supporters, then, later, rallied to his support.

At the heart of the latest controversy: the fight over the conservative bona fides of Rudy Giuliani.

Over the past few weeks, chaos has reigned in the “Freeper” community as members sympathetic to the former mayor's candidacy claim to have suffered banishment from the site. They were victimized, they say, by a wave of purges designed to weed out any remaining support for the Giuliani campaign on the popular conservative web forum. Another significant chunk of commenters have migrated away from the controversial site over the action, according to a number of former site members and conservative bloggers who have been tracking the situation.

In a plaintive post on the blog “Sweetness & Light,” exiled commenter Steve Gilbert, who says he does not support the former mayor’s campaign, blasted the site’s new “anti-Giuliani, anti-abortion jihad.” Since George W. Bush was elected president, he wrote, “there haven’t been any large scale [Free Republic] purges to speak of – until now.”

The fight began one month ago, when site founder Jim Robinson posted an anti-Giuliani manifesto titled: “Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement.” Then the virtual ax started to swing. Longtime posters to the freewheeling discussion threads, used to serious no-holds-barred web etiquette, were still stunned by the intensity of the anti-Rudy activity; conservative blogs buzzed with the development.

“Jim Robinson has been going on a tear demonizing Rudy Giuliani, because Rudy (agreeing with the vast majority of Americans), is personally opposed to abortions on a moral level…” complained a user on the GOPUSA Web site. “Anyone who posts any support for Giuliani at the site, if it's at all forceful, will be banned.”

(“Normally, we don't allow complaints about other conservative forums,” chided the moderator, but “…because it is being discussed all over the Internet, I'll make an exception.”)

Just a few months ago, Rudy Giuliani placed second in an early Free Republic straw poll; now, his support on the site has been virtually eliminated. “After the ‘April Purge,’ I don't think there are any Rudybots left around here,” noted Free Republic commenter “upchuck” in one recent post. “And if there are, they're not posting pro-Rudy stuff :).”

The forums weren’t the only venue for the Free Republic’s new antagonism toward Mr. Giuliani, which coincided with a wave of comments expressing similar sentiments from other corners of the conservative movement. A few days after Mr. Giuliani’s equivocal Roe v. Wade comments at the Republican presidential debate on May 3, a new “STOP RUDY NOW News & Information Thread” was featured on the site, and a newly-created stand-alone category debuted via a link from the homepage: “The Giuliani Truth File.” (So far this campaign season, Mr. Giuliani is the only candidate – Republican or Democratic – to be singled out for that level of scrutiny from the Free Republic.)

Why Rudy? Why now? Some conservative bloggers and former commenters contacted for their view of the continuing controversy say they believe that site founder Jim Robinson holds ideologically middling Republicans like Mr. Giuliani responsible for the GOP’s congressional loss and current woes. (They asked that their names be kept out of this story for fear of antagonizing the famously frisky site regulars.)

Others claim that the former mayor’s top-tier status is spurring frantic site administrators into action. Finally, one popular theory holds that the Free Republic is secretly hoping for another Clinton presidency that would send its Alexa ratings soaring back to levels it hasn’t experienced since its halcyon days of the Clinton impeachment, when a since-soured relationship with blog pioneer Matt Drudge and overwhelming anti-Clinton sentiment in Republican ranks helped make Free Republic one of the hottest Web sites in the nation. It hasn't recovered that luster since the Bush administration took over.

“It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s an observation,” said one blogger, who describes himself as a half-hearted Mitt Romney supporter. “They’ve still got a brand name that means something, but they’re not what they were in terms of real-world impact. A Hillary presidency would get them there.”

Robinson himself could not be reached for comment, but his original post laid out his case against Mr. Giuliani – a graphics-heavy presentation of some of the former mayor’s most damning moderate quotes in mainstream media venues, along with a color-coded report card tracking his less-than-doctrinaire positions on abortion, immigration, gays and guns.

Robinson, it should be noted, famously blasted George W. Bush’s presidential candidacy back in 2000, before a dramatic late-campaign about-face that saw him emerge as one of the GOP ticket’s biggest supporters. But whether or not Free Republic experiences a similar election-year shift this cycle, the site’s current campaign is spreading a dangerous primary-season meme of Rudy Giuliani as big-city liberal – and turning one of the most influential web forums in conservatism into an exclusive gathering place for those who share that view.


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To: mylife

I saw that. lol


41 posted on 05/26/2007 2:08:56 PM PDT by EveningStar (http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/)
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To: Eurotwit
It also experienced one of the biggest internal battles to rock the site since the 2000 election of George W. Bush -- a tumultuous campaign year that nearly tore the site apart, as its founder and chief administrator first cleansed commenting ranks of Bush supporters, then, later, rallied to his support.

I really don't remember that at all. I remember being invaded by McCainiacs, but I don't remember any purging of Bush supporters.

42 posted on 05/26/2007 2:08:58 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

A picture is worth a thousand words! I’ve also noticed some “new” members lately who appear to be retreads of previous members who have had second thoughts about giving up their posting privileges to the best conservative forum on the web.


43 posted on 05/26/2007 2:09:08 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: claudiustg
Anti-Rudyite behavior on FR? That’s kind of hard to believe. :^)

Especially with hard core conservative credentials like those of "America's Mayor".

44 posted on 05/26/2007 2:09:34 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Eurotwit
It hasn't recovered that luster since the Bush administration took over.

Shhh, don't mention Rathergate...

45 posted on 05/26/2007 2:09:51 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Little Bill

I miss Travis Mcgee....

FR has not been the same since he was shown the door...

A true American, a true Patriot, and a true defender of Western Civ.

Cheers.


46 posted on 05/26/2007 2:10:03 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI - CSC)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Duxh is and was all hat and no cattle.


47 posted on 05/26/2007 2:10:36 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is)
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To: Eurotwit
Don Morgan for me.
48 posted on 05/26/2007 2:11:16 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Kinda makes me real proud to be a right winger.

I’m wiping...my tears....ugh...for those Rooty toots!

Driven away...sob.


49 posted on 05/26/2007 2:11:53 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Eurotwit
Finally, one popular theory holds that the Free Republic is secretly hoping for another Clinton presidency that would send its Alexa ratings soaring back to levels it hasn’t experienced since its halcyon days of the Clinton impeachment, when a since-soured relationship with blog pioneer Matt Drudge and overwhelming anti-Clinton sentiment in Republican ranks helped make Free Republic one of the hottest Web sites in the nation. It hasn't recovered that luster since the Bush administration took over.

“It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s an observation,” said one blogger, who describes himself as a half-hearted Mitt Romney supporter. “They’ve still got a brand name that means something, but they’re not what they were in terms of real-world impact. A Hillary presidency would get them there.”

LMFAO... sounds to me like some puss-bag at KOS has a friend at the NYObserver.

50 posted on 05/26/2007 2:16:12 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: SouthTexas

“I must be working too much or either nobody bothered to tell me there was a purge.”

Apparently there was some kind of purge, but I don’t know how significant it was. I got a heads up that I too was “circling the drain” here:

http://forum.darwincentral.org/viewtopic.php?p=129403#129403

I see one of my favorites, PatrickHenry, is off FR now. I don’t know anything more than that.


51 posted on 05/26/2007 2:16:37 PM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: Eurotwit
I miss Travis Mcgee.

So do I. :(

52 posted on 05/26/2007 2:17:23 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: loreldan
I've posted some things supportive of him. I've not been banned so far.

Are you sure?

lol.

Must be time to dust off the tinfoil hat....another conspiracy, oh my!........

The dreaded......‘April Purge,’

53 posted on 05/26/2007 2:17:36 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Give me 10 days and we'll be at war with those SOB's - I'll make it look like their fault!")
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To: Eurotwit

I guess I would ask the writer so what?


54 posted on 05/26/2007 2:17:37 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Eurotwit

I new here and didn’t follow it very closely.

Wasn’t the issue whether the Rudybots could use the argument that Rudy might not be very conservative but he was the only chance the Republicans have to beat the dummacrats?

JimRob warned them to stop using that argument and they refused? Something like that...


55 posted on 05/26/2007 2:17:52 PM PDT by de meanr (Hunter / Thompson 08 - Fear and Loathing in DC)
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To: Eurotwit
Don't worry. The Giulianiacs will grudgingly and contritely come back when The Fred is nominated, and there's nowhere else for them to go but to either the Clinton-Obama gulag, or some quixotic third-party camp.


56 posted on 05/26/2007 2:18:05 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Fred Thompson in '08, baby!)
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To: Eurotwit

It’s a shame that JR didn’t let pro-abortion liberals take over his conservative site with Giuliani propaganda. Boo Hoo.


57 posted on 05/26/2007 2:18:50 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Eurotwit

I miss some of the exiles, but it’s been clear for a long time that Jim did not want any Giuliani campaigning on the forum. Perhaps the situation can be reevaluated next year after the party nominees have been chosen. We’re going to need all of the help we can get to stop Hillary.


58 posted on 05/26/2007 2:19:45 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Eurotwit

What a Maroon!
...as Bugs would say.


59 posted on 05/26/2007 2:20:09 PM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! REPUBLICANS: Testosterone challenged.)
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To: Eurotwit
Robinson, it should be noted, famously blasted George W. Bush’s presidential candidacy back in 2000, before a dramatic late-campaign about-face that saw him emerge as one of the GOP ticket’s biggest supporters.

Really? Who did Mr. Robinson support? I know he supported Arnold at the end of the 2003 recall election.

60 posted on 05/26/2007 2:21:18 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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