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Intelligent Design case decided - Dover, Pennsylvania, School Board loses [Fox News Alert]
Fox News | 12/20/05

Posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Fox News alert a few minutes ago says the Dover School Board lost their bid to have Intelligent Design introduced into high school biology classes. The federal judge ruled that their case was based on the premise that Darwin's Theory of Evolution was incompatible with religion, and that this premise is false.


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KEYWORDS: biology; creation; crevolist; dover; education; evolution; intelligentdesign; keywordpolice; ruling; scienceeducation
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To: Protagoras

"None of this would matter if government schools were abolished, as they should be."

But they are here, so it does matter.


361 posted on 12/20/2005 10:06:06 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: gdani

I thought Rocky already kicked this guys butt 20 years ago!


362 posted on 12/20/2005 10:06:20 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: plewis1250
As a Christian, I find evolution to be a possibility. Possibly the tool God uses to achieve his ends.

Theism is entirely compatible with the theory of evolution.

363 posted on 12/20/2005 10:06:37 AM PST by Protagoras (Many people teach their children that Jesus is story character but Santa Claus is real.)
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To: Protagoras
Evolution should be referred to correctly in the government schools. As a theory.

Yes, a scientific theory. Which is surely entirely different from your intended meaning. You need to read some of the earlier posts on this subject.

364 posted on 12/20/2005 10:06:50 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

As stated, they have been spoonfed your theory their whole lives... of course they would believe it to be true.
- plewis1250


365 posted on 12/20/2005 10:07:00 AM PST by plewis1250 (Not taking this evolutionist agenda....)
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To: gdani
Well, judging from that pic, I think we must conclude that Gigantopithecus blacki is not, in fact, extinct.
366 posted on 12/20/2005 10:07:25 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Diamond

"The claim of certain ignorance entails a claim of omniscience, which is self-refuting."

No, it's a fact. Right now there is no way to know if a God exists.


367 posted on 12/20/2005 10:07:37 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: plewis1250
Hmm... if a word has a definition, then it can be used. Once again, the "evolved mind" fails to recognize this simple concept...

Snarky comments aside, surely you realize that not every single dictionary definition is applicable to a word at the same time?

I don't know how you can claim ignorance of the scientific meaning of the word "theory" any longer - it's been explained again and again to you. Willful ignorance in the face of information isn't admirable, but it's also nothing new.

368 posted on 12/20/2005 10:08:13 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: plewis1250
"As stated, they have been spoonfed your theory their whole lives... of course they would believe it to be true."

And most of them also believe in God. So what's your point?
369 posted on 12/20/2005 10:08:30 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: snarks_when_bored

Based on the testimony on both sides, he really had no other alternative. Judges hate to stick their necks out, so to rule so convincingly as it appears he has done, means he had no other alternative.

I can't imaging Thomas More Center appealing this, but I couldn't imagine how they could get in it in the first place either.

Well Merry Christmas to all the Evos.

And, yes Merry Christmas to the Creationoids also. After all: He is the Reason for the Season. There will be solace in church where He belongs :-)


370 posted on 12/20/2005 10:08:58 AM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: cogitator

Or read C.S. Lewis' "Mere Christianity", by the atheist turned Christian. I, like him, find it much harder to believe randomness led to our universe's complexities, as opposed to creation. But then, secular humanists worship the human mind, and especially their own intellect, above all.


371 posted on 12/20/2005 10:09:10 AM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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To: toadthesecond
As compared to a 2000+ year old unproven Theory?

Only unproven to the those to ignorant to know the truth!

372 posted on 12/20/2005 10:09:30 AM PST by Bommer (Christmas is in your heart, not WalMart!)
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To: plewis1250
(That theory is based on a total LACK of a god of any sort)

The Catholic Church disagrees with you. But you know more about it than they do, right?

373 posted on 12/20/2005 10:10:06 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: isom35

Primordial Ooze alert.


374 posted on 12/20/2005 10:10:11 AM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: Smogger
Evolution, as it is instructed in public schools, makes the point that there is NO "why".

No, that's the Nation of Islam's job, to explain that white people are the result of a failed science experiment by an evil scientist.

I'm sure you'll have no problem when they teach that "why" in your local public school and call it "science".

375 posted on 12/20/2005 10:10:18 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: laxin4him

Because evolution is the only scientificly proven "theory" about the existence ofthe universe.

____It has not been proven, it is an unprovable hypothesis..intelligent design is not necessarily a religious concept and evidence can be brought forth to show that there is a rational order to the universe without bringing in religion


376 posted on 12/20/2005 10:10:27 AM PST by Bushbacker (f----u)
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To: metmom
One says its a crock and another says its correct.

You cant win.


377 posted on 12/20/2005 10:10:36 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: em2vn
The fossil history is non-existent


378 posted on 12/20/2005 10:10:48 AM PST by cogitator
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To: polymuser

"I, like him, find it much harder to believe randomness led to our universe's complexities,"

The laws of nature don't operate randomly.


379 posted on 12/20/2005 10:11:08 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Jeff Head

Relativity is a theory as well, but the effects it suggests have been proven time and again, with highly rare/specialized exceptions.

Also, please remember that ID fails in two major areas: 1) assuming God's existence and 2) assuming something is complex beyond human understanding.

Neither is testable, neither can be proven. Therefor, huff and puff all you want, you'll never see it as science.


380 posted on 12/20/2005 10:11:29 AM PST by UWconservative
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