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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)


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To: penowa
If the Croes name is so common, might this be about another CC altogether?
1,181 posted on 08/31/2005 6:29:59 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: penowa
LOL, this will send CG over the deep end.

Actually, I'm rather skeptical of this, as Jug talked one night about a man accosting a woman, actually hitting her, on the street in Aruba right in front of a policeman. Jug asked why nothing was done and was told it was a personal, family matter.

Things that make you go...one happy island...da plane, da plane
1,182 posted on 08/31/2005 6:30:53 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts ( Always harder to keep murder secret than egg to bounce on sidewalk.)
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To: shebacal

I don't think so. I'm sure Aruba Girl knows exactly who CC is.


1,183 posted on 08/31/2005 6:31:52 PM PDT by penowa (I've been Quinnoculated, have you?)
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To: Rusty Roberts

Yes, I remember Jug talking about the treatment of women. My guess is this is just one more example of how Aruban justice is applied. No telling who his wife is related to, or perhaps CC will now find because of his interview on Fox and closeness to the H/T family, he will need to abide by every law on the books, whereas others may be cut a lot of slack. It could also be propaganda being used to smear him and he was arrested for something else (or for nothing.)


1,184 posted on 08/31/2005 6:39:25 PM PDT by penowa (I've been Quinnoculated, have you?)
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To: penowa

If that is really the case, then that would seriously damage the comparison, that I was making in my mind while watching "Across the Pacific" (1943), that CC resembles (in character) the banker, (Mr. Smith), who Rick (Bogie-the discredited Army officer) meets as his undercover contact when Rick arrives by ship in Panama to look for spies and espionage.


1,185 posted on 08/31/2005 6:49:46 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: penowa

Oh my, not CC!!


1,186 posted on 08/31/2005 6:49:54 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: penowa

THE DIVINE CC IS A WIFE BEATER


NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY

LOL


1,187 posted on 08/31/2005 6:56:50 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: besafe05

Hey Besafe,
I commend you for very prudent and realistic outlook on the real situation in Aruba.
Some often opt to go along to get along,
NSNR-ROTPC


1,188 posted on 08/31/2005 7:07:25 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: stopem

No problem, Sheehan will welcome them with open arms to her camp of anti-americanism.

Some good people in (NO) will suffer due to the actions of the anarchists.

The mayor needs to get his sorry ass out there, and start leading, not giving lip service. This includes Blanco and Landrieu the two twits in the knit.
Reality Opens Eyes of the Blind,
NSNR-CSP


1,189 posted on 08/31/2005 7:12:18 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: penowa
I know.

I've been fascinated with ArubaGirl, as she is fount of information, in a certain manner. This whole question about the police chief's son is a very hot topic over there, and she is very certain about who is not his son, but never explains why the person that is not his son happens to have the same last name.

On that small island, it may well be that the person in question is not his son, it might be a relation of another sort, but one way or another, I feel certain he is related given the close relationship of PVDS and the chief.

This seems to be very important to AG, but it is not important enough to clarify the situation, she just backs away.

The same with this Lorenzo person, with AG and NL, it's like a game they are playing.

Everyone has an agenda of some sort, it's just that I think there might be more than island pride at work with these two. The whole thing about the van, supposedly Lorenzo's, was a hoot last week.

One ugly, skeleton painted multicolored van that was supposedly this Lorenzo person was posted. The driver was partially visible and there great debate as to whether it might be PVDS.

AG said she had never seen such a van on the island, which seemed a little unusual. Others asked about ferrys, did they run so such a van could be brought on the island, she said she wasn't aware of any. Another pointed out one that did run. Once someone else verified the landmarks in the picture were Aruba, a day or two later, suddenly, it's right behind her. lol.
1,190 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:28 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts ( Always harder to keep murder secret than egg to bounce on sidewalk.)
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To: cajungirl

Don't blame me. That's what Aruba Girl said. I am just passing on the gossip! I even checked to make certain you weren't here because I didn't want to be the one to tell you the terrible news.


1,191 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:29 PM PDT by penowa (I've been Quinnoculated, have you?)
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To: All

In response to those on FR who asked about people willing to share their homes with Katrina disaster victims:

I received this info in a newsletter from Gary L. Bauer, Chairman, Campaign for Working Families:

...a website has just been launched by a friend of ours in Louisiana, Gary Brown, that is attempting to match homeless families with homeowners willing to take them in. That website is:

http://www.shareyourhome.org


1,192 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:43 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: TexKat
Scared Monkeys is hearing from sources that Joran Van Der Sloot was sent back to the KIA prison after his hearing for another 30 days. (Confirmed on Canal 90)
The Kalpoe Brothers are still in a hearing, and there is a rumor that Joran may be brought back for more testimony.
There is also word that “Jaime”, a close friend of Joran Van Der Sloot, is being questioned in the case.

I would still vote for the one hour solution.

1,193 posted on 08/31/2005 7:18:56 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: cajungirl

Hey, if I'd known CC would have drawn you out, I woudda made something up :)

How are you?


1,194 posted on 08/31/2005 7:25:28 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Thanks for the kind words NSNR.

As I tell my wife, "I is my own person."

besafe05


1,195 posted on 08/31/2005 7:34:03 PM PDT by besafe05
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To: All

Why in the world would the Kalpoe brother's be trying to hide their faces going in and out of court? HELLO??? We know who they are!


1,196 posted on 08/31/2005 7:44:58 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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OFF TOPIC:

Hey, everybody! Cable is down still so I'm at Mama'a doing a little Internet banking.

I sat in a line, hey I was one of the ones next to a pump, for 4(four) hours today on the assumption and rumor that a gas station was getting a tanker in this afternoon! It didn't show.

Could ya'll send me some gas in the mail? On the way up here I heard on the scanner that a gentleman broke line at a gas station and pulled a gun on the people that challenged him. Then I passed the station and yes, there were about six police cruisers there.

It's bad here as far as gasoline is concerned. Right now there are two gas stations in the Jackson, MS greater metropolitan area that have fuel for sale. People are actually following fuel tankers to their destinations where fights usually break out.

I know that we're no way near as bad off as the people in the southern part of the state or New Orleans, but if we are to provide the rebuilding support for those people down there something has got to be done.

Gotta go left Mrs. Malichi and the kids at the house. She's a decent shot so she'll be ok. I'll be at work tomorrow so I'll check in.

TAW

1,197 posted on 08/31/2005 7:54:39 PM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: justche

Okay,,it is very bad here, almost unbelievable. But I have power, a house and nobody missing now. So I feel very blessed.


1,198 posted on 08/31/2005 7:57:28 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: RGVTx
So if CC's conversation with Joran was before tempers flared and Beth's confrontation with Joran was during tempers flaring, that could explain the differing descriptions of Joran that night.

I think that's a likely scenario. Joran is no model citizen but there are many, many teenagers who would react as Beth described if accused or addressed in a heated manner. Of course I just read that CC may have been earlier arrested for hitting his wife...which, if true, would be a bit of a chink in the image of him as the cool, calm diplomat. In honor of cajungirl I will continue to believe he can leap tall buildings. :)

1,199 posted on 08/31/2005 9:00:12 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: ftriggerf
It could be some kind of language/cultural barrier. That's why I'm not sure how telling Joran's reaction to Beth really is.
1,200 posted on 08/31/2005 9:06:42 PM PDT by Dolphy
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