Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: TexKat

Oh, great. Another mystery to get obsessed with. lol!

Gotta run. Ping me when you get it all figured out!

421 posted on 06/30/2005 6:16:20 PM PDT by Nita Nupress

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To: Lizarde

Thanks I had to relog in and of course couldn't remember too acurately my new SM name and password....

That makes two of us.

422 posted on 06/30/2005 6:17:12 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: sodpoodle

Every word of this article is true. My grandson lived in the Netherlands for two years, and the tales he told would curl your hair!

424 posted on 06/30/2005 6:20:05 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: All

Have any of you heard of Amy Bradley? Similar circumstances except she vanished from a cruise ship back in 1998. She was supposedly spotted in a brothel in Curacao.

http//www.tggweb.com/amybradley/amy-update.htm#june0905

425 posted on 06/30/2005 6:23:47 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: Sunshine55

bookmarking

426 posted on 06/30/2005 6:26:31 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Does Anita van der Sloot suffer from Carolyn Condit syndrome?)

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To: demkicker; TexKat

Judge Napolitano says that the Aruban prosecutor has commited a crime in Aruba by leaking info that was obtained in an ongoing case.

I don't know that I've ever heard this judge say anything favorable for a victim, only for a perp ...

I wish Fox would lose him.

427 posted on 06/30/2005 6:27:01 PM PDT by af_vet_1981

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To: TexKat

Thanks I had to relog in and of course couldn't remember too acurately my new SM name and password.... That makes two of us.

That makes 3 of us, but I think they cleaned house, now hearing you 2 also could not log in.

428 posted on 06/30/2005 6:30:18 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)

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To: truthluva

Have any of you heard of Amy Bradley? Similar circumstances except she vanished from a cruise ship back in 1998. She was supposedly spotted in a brothel in Curacao.

Yes, thanks truthluva, its been discussed on these threads and has been discussed on cable news comparing it to the Natalee Holloway case.

429 posted on 06/30/2005 6:31:33 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: truthluva

Yes, we have. I've seen her parents and brother on TV a number of times since Natalee disappeared. I really feel for them--they will probably join that large club of parents who never find out what happened to their missing sons and daughters.

Amy's case was a little different. Their ship had left Aruba and was at sea when Amy went missing. At that time, someone may have been holding her in a cabin and taken her off at the next stop (which I believe was Curacao).

430 posted on 06/30/2005 6:32:23 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: Palladin

What about Claudia Kirschhoch, missing from Jamaica? Or any others? I didn't know about these two until today.

http://findclaudia.homestead.com/

431 posted on 06/30/2005 6:36:14 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: af_vet_1981

I don't know that I've ever heard this judge say anything favorable for a victim, only for a perp ...

I wish Fox would lose him.

I'm not a fan of his either. In fact, he gives me the creeps, looking like an older version of Eddie on the Adams Family (except he doesn't have a widows peak on his short little forehead).

432 posted on 06/30/2005 6:38:09 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: truthluva

The FBI helped look for her.......what a sad story

433 posted on 06/30/2005 6:47:35 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: Jrabbit

Down right scarry if you ask me. I wonder if there are others that are missing and I just never heard about them??

434 posted on 06/30/2005 6:54:09 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: demkicker

Fox: Prosecutors will seek a 60 day extension next week.

435 posted on 06/30/2005 6:54:39 PM PDT by Carolinamom

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To: Jrabbit

The FBI helped look for her.......what a sad story

There needs to be a different set of rules when dealing with predators than with peaceful citizens. This game they are playing does not work.

436 posted on 06/30/2005 6:57:34 PM PDT by af_vet_1981

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To: TexKat

It's quite interesting, TK! I would have to read it many times to decipher the cast. He's naming all the characters in this case. But he is saying that the mystery character (Dirty hand) is controlling the case, and so if Babylonian (Joran) sings, than the house of cards will fall, and his Daddy knows it or is involved. It's all tied into Drugs (Ecstasy,etc).

So who is Dirty Hand? That's the key.

437 posted on 06/30/2005 6:58:51 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: Carolinamom

What are the odds the request will be granted? Personally, I think it will be granted because if the jerks running Aruba have ANY CLUE, they realize it wouldn't be a good idea to let those snot nose murderers go, at least until Natalee is found and her family leaves that God forbidden corrupt island.

438 posted on 06/30/2005 7:00:39 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: spectre

So you do not think that is some kind of wacko poster or just someone trying to have their opinion stick out amongst the rest?

439 posted on 06/30/2005 7:04:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: demkicker; All

Are you all watching Beth and Greta?

If the whole lot of us are experienceing frustration, multiply it by 100 and that is what this poor woman is feeling.

I want to help her, but don't know how..

440 posted on 06/30/2005 7:04:59 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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