Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:51 PM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Ariel/Satellite Map of Aruba
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Online TV Show Links
Shortcuts...
PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network
Show/Interview Transcripts
Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005
Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005
Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005
Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005
Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005
Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005
Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005
Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005
Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005
'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.
I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.
This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE
Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
Bookmarking
The "mystery message" may be the rumored ransom demand. This would explain why Beth felt so strongly that Natalee was alive, and would explain why her flyers said "kidnapped" instead of "missing."
Yes... a very handsome articulate older gentleman :-)
bookmarking for later.
Wow. Hadn't thought of that. I do wonder why Beth felt so strongly that Natalee had been kidnapped; this could be a clue.
Greta said: "For example, what if Joran did leave her on the beach like a cad... and that she decided to go for a swim and went way out and drowned? Of course, like I noted, there is not evidence of my hypothetical but it is possible. We just don't know."
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I just wonder if there is truth to the report that J at school the next day was mouthing off about how Natalee had drowned.
I have not heard that. Where did you hear that one.
bookmark
Shortcuts... (updated version)
A-DK = David Kock (Satish's Attorney
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
CNN = Cable News Network
DH = David Holloway (Natalee's Father)
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
HNN = Headline News Network
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
LE = Law Enforcement
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
MSM = Main Stream Media
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay - possible suspect)
SG or SG's = Security Guards
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 18 year old suspect
VDS = van der Sloot
Hey Brigette, I've been lurking these threads regularly, but may have missed something. I saw an article (http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm19854_20040518.htm) about a young guy who drowned in 2004 and wasn't found. Was this beach where he drowned near where Natalie was presumed to have been "left"? After Greta's story on the currents last night, I was doubtful that a drowning victim would get carried out to sea, rather, they would wash up. But after reading the story in the above link, I have doubts.
Subjects: Drug trafficking, Drug policy |
In a letter to the leaders of Congress, Pres Clinton lists the countries that have been judged to be major illicit drug-producing or drug-transit countries. Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles are the most recent additions to this group of nations. |
Dear Mr. Chairman: (Dear Ranking Member: ) |
Hard to say... I never heard about the young man before.
June 30, 2005
Beth absolutely believes that she has been kidnapped. Beth says that this is not a missing person. She called 911 saying that her daughter had been kidnapped.
Sounds to me like Greta, Beth et. at. are playing nice to avoid antagonizing the Arubans. It must take every ounce of control they have.
Well done, Nita. Well done.
I just read some more on the boy and found out that they were four miles out when the jetski broke down.
Should you go there on vacation, you may need this list of names if you encounter any difficulties, doncha know.
EIU ViewsWire, New York: Mar 22, 2005
Aruba: Political structure
Official name
Aruba
Form of government
Parliamentary democracy with control over internal affairs, including aviation, customs, communications and immigration; the Netherlands is responsible for external affairs such as citizenship, defence and foreign affairs
The executive
Council of Ministers responsible to the Staten (parliament)
Head of state
Queen Beatrix Wilhelmina Armgard of the Netherlands, represented by a governor; responsibility in the Netherlands lies with the Ministry of Internal Affairs
National legislature
The Staten has 21 members elected by adult suffrage every four years through proportional representation
Legal system
Court of first instance on the island, appealing to a High Court of Justice operated jointly with the Netherlands Antilles; High Court justices are appointed by the Dutch crown in consultation with the Council of Ministers
National elections
September 28th 2001; next election expected to be in September 2005
National government
The MEP has a majority of 12 of the 21 seats in the Staten
Main political organisations
Government: Movimento Electoral di Pueblo (MEP)--12 seats
Opposition: Arubaanse Volks Partij (AVP)--six seats; Partido Patriotico Arubano (PPA)--two seats; Organisacion Liberal Arubano (OLA)--one seat
Other: Aliansa Democratico Arubano (Aliansa); Conscientisacion pa Liberacion di Aruba (CLA); Accion Democratico Nacional (ADN)
Governor-general: Fredis Refunjol
Prime minister & minister of general affairs: Nelson Oduber
Deputy prime minister & social affairs & infrastructure: Marisol Tromp
Key ministers
Education & administrative affairs: Walfrido Croes
Employment, culture & sport: Ramon Lee
Finance & economic affairs: Nilo Swaen
Justice: Rudy Croes
National health & environment: Booshi Wever
Tourism & transport: Eddy Briesen
Central Bank president
Robert Henriquez
Oh yeah...He was spell binding and HOT! :)
sw
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