Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

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Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: Dark Skies; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

From SM:

Edmond Croes is inviting mister Twitty to come with his so called facts that he treathen to tell if any of the 3 suspects were released. According to Edmond Croes at Top 95 they had it with the gross way how the stephfather is talking about Aruba ?? Well well... Teo Live from Top 95 at www.arubadag.com

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1,861 posted on 07/04/2005 2:43:28 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Who is this bastard, Edmond Croes?

1,862 posted on 07/04/2005 2:45:20 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: TexKat

SM: Brothers leaving KIA

1,863 posted on 07/04/2005 2:47:09 PM PDT by maggief

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To: the Deejay

They didn't show up close, but it seems like his are pretty ovbious--maybe the different style hair was to detract from that....this just gets more and more bizarre.

1,864 posted on 07/04/2005 2:47:28 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)

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To: demkicker; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

From SM:

right now on Aruba 95 in english...what seems to be a broadcast from Alabama regarding the chaperones and why they are not speaking about what occured.

1,865 posted on 07/04/2005 2:48:34 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: maggiefluffs

Bump!!

1,866 posted on 07/04/2005 2:49:07 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Jrabbit

He is 6'5". He is one HUGE 17 year old. And he has a HUGE arrogant ego to accompany his physical size. Poor Natalee never had a chance imo. Was likely drugged and raped and then murdered and disposed of. In any event, I figure she ended up dead because why else would PVDS being talking about a corpse or body. No body, No case. The MOST revealing statement yet!!!

1,867 posted on 07/04/2005 2:49:19 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: justche

this just gets more and more bizarre.

Not by Aruban standards...It's quite the norm. LOL!

1,868 posted on 07/04/2005 2:49:57 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: justche

Just saw new video....looks like they are there...(I can't believe I'm talking about his zits, think I'll go back to lurk mode)

1,869 posted on 07/04/2005 2:50:17 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)

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To: TexKat

...they've had it...

Heh, heh. Sorry boys. It's just beginning.

1,870 posted on 07/04/2005 2:50:23 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: demkicker

Who is this bastard, Edmond Croes?

Either owns or operates the radio station iirc.

1,871 posted on 07/04/2005 2:50:33 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Sorry to say, I don't think this story is going to have a big impact on Aruba's tourism.
For some reason, Aruba is a huge destination for people from New England. Things may stall for awhile but nothing will really change.
My husband and I went to Aruba on our honeymoon 36 years ago. We went back for the first time, since,last year and we were again UNDERWHELMED!
We had lunch at Carlos and Charlie's and they tried to pull a fast one with the bill. You do not do that to my husband.
We have frankly gotten very disillusioned with most of the islands in the Carribbean, Grand Cayman ,possibly, being the exception.

1,872 posted on 07/04/2005 2:51:50 PM PDT by surrey

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To: demkicker

I see what Beth is going thru as similar to what a parent must go thru when they are told their child has a terminal illness. First hope that they may be cured and then the dawning realization that it is not going to turn out that way. One difference is that Beth was not able to say good bye. All we can do is pray for the family.

1,873 posted on 07/04/2005 2:52:34 PM PDT by Ditter

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To: Dark Skies

From SM:

arubagirl wrote:

Hi guys.

What'd I miss?

Kidding, kidding.

Okay, I know, I know, outrage, coverup, corruption.

What the locals REALLY wanna know is this: When's the Twitty/Holloway press conference?

Yes, we're nosy.

Yes we are waiting and listening to 95.1... I think perhaps Jug is waiting for a larger US conference...(interesting comments on Top95.1)...

1,874 posted on 07/04/2005 2:53:16 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

The hell with Edmond Croes. The Twitty's should tell him that they will make their comments to the American Media, when they get back home...on friendly soil.

I HOPE if Joran gets off, he follows thru with his plans to go to College in the US. He won't find this place as friendly as that cesspool, Aruba.

1,875 posted on 07/04/2005 2:54:07 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: TexKat

what seems to be a broadcast from Alabama regarding the chaperones and why they are not speaking about what occured.

Am I nuts, or haven't the chaperones said all along they weren't going to speak with the media while the investigation is ongoing? What's newsy about this broadcast?

1,876 posted on 07/04/2005 2:54:38 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: surrey

Sorry to say, I don't think this story is going to have a big impact on Aruba's tourism.

Well surrey, I tend to agree with.

1,877 posted on 07/04/2005 2:54:58 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; USF

Come take a look. The pressure is building and the dam might break at any moment.

1,878 posted on 07/04/2005 2:55:49 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Landry Fan

The smugness and arrogance of the VDS's makes my blood boil also!! I want to just backhand that punk and his father and that clueless TWIT of a mother.

1,879 posted on 07/04/2005 2:56:25 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: demkicker

I don't think she said the chaperones were speaking but it was "about" the chaperones not speaking.

1,880 posted on 07/04/2005 2:56:55 PM PDT by BamaBlue

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