Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: Rippersnapper; Yaelle

Sharon Rocha would be a helpful
companion to Beth these days.

1,841 posted on 07/04/2005 2:25:43 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: No Surrender No Retreat

#1245 - EXCELLENT POST!!

1,842 posted on 07/04/2005 2:26:07 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: TexKat

I KNEW I heard FOX correctly
about the presser!

1,843 posted on 07/04/2005 2:27:13 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Dark Skies

Do you know when they are expected to be released?

On the last Aruba update, less than 30 minutes ago, Fox News reporter stated that the Kalpoes were already at home.

1,844 posted on 07/04/2005 2:27:18 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: surrey

I wondered about that too, I don't know. When I lost my 18 year old son I still had 2 other children who needed me. One was in college but the other one was a 6 th grader. I can't imagine the strength need to deal with what is happening but I know the finality of hearing that your child is dead. Others here know what I am talking about. Beth is running on hope.

1,845 posted on 07/04/2005 2:30:32 PM PDT by Ditter

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To: the Deejay; TexKat

I KNEW I heard FOX correctly about the presser!

Very disappointing that Fox won't at least explain what happened. Makes them look stupid when they don't update their audience after such an announcement.

1,846 posted on 07/04/2005 2:31:22 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: TexKat

Hot Dog! I'll bet their phone is ringing off the cradle..and, once they are in front of cameras, they'll sing like canaries.

1,847 posted on 07/04/2005 2:31:52 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Ditter

Ditter, I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child. Can there be anything worse? My heart goes out to you.

1,848 posted on 07/04/2005 2:32:09 PM PDT by surrey

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To: Dark Skies

From SM:

Declaration Oomen:

"we are content with Judges decision. No comment on investigation. Kalpoes want some rest from the Media to recover from this ordeal. Please give the time to recover from this... The investigation is contueing. They are still suspects in this case. They do not need to be incarcelated.

1,849 posted on 07/04/2005 2:32:41 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: texasbluebell

No zits either...

1,850 posted on 07/04/2005 2:32:58 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)

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To: demkicker

Very disappointing that Fox won't at least explain what happened. Makes them look stupid when they don't update their audience after such an announcement.

I agree. They rarely apologize or say why something didn't go on-air as planned.

1,851 posted on 07/04/2005 2:34:08 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Ditter; surrey

Does Natalee have any siblings? I hope for Beth's sake that Natalee isn't her only child.

I believe Natalee is Beth's only child. She is a step-mother to Jug's son, who I think is in his teens.

1,852 posted on 07/04/2005 2:34:12 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: demkicker

Very disappointing that Fox won't at least explain what happened. Makes them look stupid when they don't update their audience after such an announcement.

They are afraid the viewers will tune into a different station. They do this s_ _ _ all the time.

1,853 posted on 07/04/2005 2:35:18 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: justche

No zits either...

Nice catch!

1,854 posted on 07/04/2005 2:35:30 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: truthluva

It IS a BS article. The Arubian Minister of Justice stated: PVDS is a FAILED Judge and that he had recently been to the Minister's office to ask for a job!! I wish to heck the MSM would STOP calling this POS a Judge or a high ranking Judicial official. He is NOT!! The guy is looking for a job.

1,855 posted on 07/04/2005 2:36:43 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: TexKat

Kalpoes want some rest from the Media to recover from this ordeal.

Not a chance. If I were Carol McKinley, I would park my car outside their house and get the camera crew set up.

1,856 posted on 07/04/2005 2:36:58 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: surrey

Thank you for your kind words. It has been 21 years and I have gotten on with my life. Beth will too but this long period of not knowing and false hopes will take their toll.

1,857 posted on 07/04/2005 2:38:38 PM PDT by Ditter

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To: Canadian Outrage

If he's already talking about bodies then there must have been one.

That's my thinking, too.

1,858 posted on 07/04/2005 2:38:40 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Dark Skies

I would park my car outside their house and get the camera crew set up.

Too right! First in line for an exclusive, like Greta got w/Steve Croes and the VDS parents.

1,859 posted on 07/04/2005 2:40:10 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Ditter

God bless you, Ditter. You've known the worst pain imaginable.

1,860 posted on 07/04/2005 2:43:14 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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